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SHANEA

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Re: Area Maps
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2013, 04:38:06 PM »
Many things to consider if going to BGWMA.  (1)  It is beyond desolate and a very long ways anywhere.  The closest store is Stillwell and a pay phone and gasoline and water.  If you break down or have multiple flats in BGWMA, be prepared for a long walk.  A guy named Nacho used to work at Stillwell fixing flats, don't think he is there any longer.  Very few people and vehicles.  (2) last time I was there, absolutely no cell service - not even close.  (4) no potable water anywhere, haul your own.  (5) must have a limited user permit, and you can't get them there or anywhere else close by.  Each person must have one and I have been checked for having one before.  (6).  They close it up for hunting season.  (7) Certain areas closed for the Big Horn Sheep.  (8) it's nothing like BIBE or BBRSP.   For more information on it, join the Texas Big Horn Sheep Society. 

I've been out there and a friend shredded a tire out on the gravel road - side wall blow out.  He had one spare and another tire was leaking.  I always carry two spares.  I've seen a truck stuck in the middle of the narrow road, couldn't pass it, blocked access to the fish camps.  Tranny fluid from the front axle all over the ground.  Had to get hauled out.  Nearest tow truck would be Marathon and I can only imagine what that would cost. 

BTW - that map is from like 5 years or so ago, so things might have changed somewhat.   AND the reason you can't find much about BGWMA, is that I always get the impression that I'm really not wanted out there when I find someone in the first place.  It's a "secret" place just for the Big Horns and Hunters.  There won't be any ranger to greet you and steer you in the right direction or anything.  You drive in, there is a metal building to self register, and that's it.  There is a bunk house for those TPWD people that get banished out there.  Also, some research goes on out there as well.  Used to be some TPWD researcher Tom out there.  He was out there "GPSing" the roads long ago.  Can be very spooky at night, especially along the river and fish camps.  Only place I've ever seen a bear.  In the past, used to see a lot of DHS/CBP vehicles driving around - got woken up one morning by one of them (customs - border patrol).

Good place to canoe parts of the Rio Grande for short stretches if you have two vehicles to do a put in and take out.  That is part of the NPS Rio Grande Corridor Wild and Scenic River, so you are "supposed" to have the proper permits.  A long ways to drive up to Persimmon Gap to secure the permits.  Some of the river outfitters used to run trips down there when the water was so low up stream.  Also, a common put in is either there or a La Linda for the massive downstream expeditions.

Look at Google Earth, there is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING out there - on either side of the river.

Good luck.   
« Last Edit: July 12, 2013, 04:48:12 PM by SHANEA »

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Re: Area Maps
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2013, 10:51:56 AM »
Thank you all!  There is more useful information in these posts than all the rest of the interwebs! 

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Re: Area Maps
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2013, 11:15:41 AM »
The dark circles on the map are labeled "Guzzlers".  Any idea what they are?
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Re: Area Maps
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2013, 11:39:21 AM »
The dark circles on the map are labeled "Guzzlers".  Any idea what they are?

Nothing official or knowledgeable here, just my GE armchair explorations.  :-\
There were a number of peaked roof structures which I think are covered wildlife watering areas
as they all had a tank with a line running to them I didn't mark any of those. They also seemed too low
to the ground, judging by their shadows, to be camping shade shelters.

I think those other structures you have identified but not marked are called "guzzlers" - collect rainwater for the animals.

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Re: Area Maps
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2013, 03:45:30 PM »
BTW - that map is from like 5 years or so ago, so things might have changed somewhat.   

I'd say so, on GE I'm finding lots of differences. The fishing camps seem well marked, but some of the
other camps are missing, there are tanks and guzzlers that are not shown on the map...or
the map is so not to scale or distorted that it's difficult to co-ordinate between it and GE.
I'll keep trying. Anybody find camp #1 or 2? The concrete header dam seems to be in the wrong place
or maybe I'm all turned around? The North reference on the map is magnetic north, right?

Lots of information on guzzlers here:
http://www.fayettecountygroundwater.com/Documents/Publications/Harvesting%20Rainwater%20for%20Wildlife%202348437-2253.pdf


Thanks, very informative, the peaked roofs I was seeing were in fact de-peaked rain water collectors. :icon_biggrin:

 
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