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Title: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 10:37:20 AM
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Now that I've gotten back into backpacking, sorta, I'm falling down that slippery slope of needing (wanting!?) new equipment. Most of my camping equipment is geared toward car camping...thus not very light. Mostly too heavy for backpacking, even on the small scale that I plan.

For the S Rim hike in September, I bought a cheap $50.00 Eureka! Solitaire tent that actually isn't too bad. I wouldn't want to use it in really inclement weather but for fair weather use, it's okay. It's really just one step up from a bivy.

Soooo....I'm sorta thinking about a 1 person tent upgrade for the spring Marufo Vega hike. Maybe Santa will bring enough $ for a new tent!  :crossedfingers: Any suggestions for a tent that is 1 person, 3 season and fairly light weight? I'd like to keep the packed weight down to around 3 pounds and it would be nice if there was enough head room to sit up at least a little. I'm afraid hamocks are out...sorry Jeff, and others.Other than that, I'm open for suggestions!  :eusa_think:
  Thanks!
   Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: Robert on November 29, 2008, 01:32:56 PM
Bill, I have a friend who has the Sierra Light Year and likes it. It lists for $149 and weighs in at 3 lbs. http://sierradesigns.com/tents.display.php?id=45 (http://sierradesigns.com/tents.display.php?id=45) He did mention it had some condensation in it one morning but that seems to be a common problem for 1 man tents (but nothing like a bivy). Another issue is that you have to enter from the end as opposed to some tents where you enter from the side. He said there is plenty of headroom though.

I guess you have to expect that most single person tents will be tight on space and are not freestanding. What surprises me is the number of people who complain in reviews about lack of extra space. What did they expect for a 3 lb tent?
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: dkerr24 on November 29, 2008, 02:26:07 PM
The Lightyear is a design that's been around since the mid 1990's.  It could be found for far less than the $150 retail price.  REI was running them for $50 a few weeks ago when I was in Dallas.

The Clip Flashlight 2 is only a few ounces more in weight, but offers a LOT more room.

My own preference is a 2 man tent which gives 1 man plenty of room plus room to store gear inside.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: Ray52 on November 29, 2008, 06:36:50 PM
Have you looked at the Eureka Spitfire Bill?  I've used mine on two hikes and it works fine for me.  It's not real spacious but is light, packs small, sets up easily and fit my budget at the time.  To be absolutely honest, I was set on the SD Clip Flashlight but Campmor had them on backorder when I was ready to buy.  I'm not a small guy....a little over 6' tall, size 13 feet, and approx 220# so the Spitfire is a snug fit.  There's room to sit up, but not much for my feet, and that's my only complaint.  I haven't endured any inclement weather in it yet, but have years of experience with Eureka products and expect it will do quite well.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: russco on November 29, 2008, 06:41:50 PM
I have always been a fan of Eureka products as well...always seems to be good technical equipment at an affordable price...that spitfire looks nice.... http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23889 (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23889)
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 07:28:37 PM
Hi Robert!
Bill, I have a friend who has the Sierra Light Year and likes it. It lists for $149 and weighs in at 3 lbs.  He said there is plenty of headroom though.

The SD LY CD is on the short list so far. Thanks for the info from your friend.

I guess you have to expect that most single person tents will be tight on space and are not freestanding. What surprises me is the number of people who complain in reviews about lack of extra space. What did they expect for a 3 lb tent?

That's true! The little Solitaire I have is really tight on space but I expected that. The tents I'm considering at this point are about the same floor space but have more headroom. I'm looking at the SD Velox 1 and the REI Quarter Dome T1. All of the above are reasonably priced too!
   Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 07:33:43 PM
The Clip Flashlight 2 is only a few ounces more in weight, but offers a LOT more room.

My own preference is a 2 man tent which gives 1 man plenty of room plus room to store gear inside.

I hear you dkerr24! My car camping tent is an REI Taj 3 and I camp solo! Lot's of room for me and the stuff I bring along.

Having said that, I think a 1 person tent is what I need for my short backpacking jaunts. I don't mind being cramped when I'm carrying my shelter on my back. For my aching back and knees, every ounce counts!
   Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 07:40:57 PM
Have you looked at the Eureka Spitfire Bill?  I've used mine on two hikes and it works fine for me.  It's not real spacious but is light, packs small, sets up easily and fit my budget at the time.   I haven't endured any inclement weather in it yet, but have years of experience with Eureka products and expect it will do quite well.

Hi Ray52!
The Spitfire is one I'm considering. I've had good luck with Eureka! products in the past too!
   Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 07:45:50 PM
I have always been a fan of Eureka products as well...always seems to be good technical equipment at an affordable price...that spitfire looks nice.... http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23889 (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23889)

Hi russco!
Yep...no problem here with Eureka! stuff. Might have to go see what else Campmor has to offer...I haven't looked around in there yet.
  Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 08:08:50 PM
Thanks everyone for the replies!

On the short list so far:

Sierra Designs Velox 1
Marmot Eos 1
REI Quarter Dome T1
Big Agnes Seedhouse SL1

The Marmot and BA tents are probably outside of the price range I want to pay for a tent that will get used 1 -2 times a year. Maybe there will be some sales after the first of the year?  :eusa_pray: All of them seem nicely made and would certainly do fine for my uses. I'll keep my eyes peeled for good sales and see if I can snag something after the first of the year.
  Thanks!
    Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: jeffblaylock on November 29, 2008, 08:44:44 PM
I just spent the last eight nights in a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo (http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=36), which weighs less than 2 pounds, sets up easily with practice, and allows me to sit up inside. It's a single-wall tent, so I wouldn't take it out into a heavy storm or excessively wet weather. I'd also recommend getting the custom-cut Tyvek groundcloth. It's pricey but worth looking into.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: Medic on November 29, 2008, 10:01:08 PM
I've been using my Cabela's XPG Ultralight for about a year now and have nothing but good things to say about it.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031780516763a&type=product&cmCat=cchart_dome_tent (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031780516763a&type=product&cmCat=cchart_dome_tent)
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 11:34:54 PM
I just spent the last eight nights in a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo (http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=36), which weighs less than 2 pounds, sets up easily with practice, and allows me to sit up inside. It's a single-wall tent, so I wouldn't take it out into a heavy storm or excessively wet weather. I'd also recommend getting the custom-cut Tyvek groundcloth. It's pricey but worth looking into.

Hey Jeff!
That is a very lightweight tent! I looked around the rest of the site and they have some serious ultralight gear. I don't know that I'm that serious about going ultralight since most of what I will be doing is one night backpack trips. I think my serious, multi-day backpacking trips are in the past. Although....if I get back into backpacking a little more, maybe that will change....
  Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 29, 2008, 11:43:09 PM
I've been using my Cabela's XPG Ultralight for about a year now and have nothing but good things to say about it.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031780516763a&type=product&cmCat=cchart_dome_tent (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031780516763a&type=product&cmCat=cchart_dome_tent)

Hi Medic!
I hadn't even considered Cabelas! That seems like a good tent. Gets lots of good reviews. Wonder if they ever go on sale?
   Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: homerboy2u on November 30, 2008, 12:02:26 AM
I've been using my Cabela's XPG Ultralight for about a year now and have nothing but good things to say about it.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031780516763a&type=product&cmCat=cchart_dome_tent (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031780516763a&type=product&cmCat=cchart_dome_tent)

Hi Medic!
I hadn't even considered Cabelas! That seems like a good tent. Gets lots of good reviews. Wonder if they ever go on sale?
   Bill

 Yes they do Professor,you just have to subscribe to their weekly emails and then the Bargain cave offers will start to show on your email Inbox.

 Medic...how well does your (XPG) tent holds up against the wind and water?.Also Cabelas shows three models,which one is yours?
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: Medic on November 30, 2008, 12:31:17 AM
I have the one-person model. Has held up well in the wind, but I haven't had it out in the rain yet. It's a free-standing tent, which has come in handy in some of the places I camp.

Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 30, 2008, 12:32:02 AM

 Yes they do Professor,you just have to subscribe to their weekly emails and then the Bargain cave offers will start to show on your email Inbox.

 Medic...how well does your (XPG) tent holds up against the wind and water?.Also Cabelas shows three models,which one is yours?

Done Homero! Soon my in box will be filled with e-mails from Cabelas. :icon_eek:
Thanks for the tip!
Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: stingrey on November 30, 2008, 11:17:47 AM
I'm still a big fan of Big Agnes and their tents... The tent I carried most recently is a Seedhouse SL3, but Big Agnes makes a Seedhouse SL1 that has a packed weight of 2lb 13oz, and a Seedhouse SL2 that has a packed weight of 3lb 6oz.

The SL3 is a tad heavy compared to many other "solo backpacker" tents, but it also fit my whole pack inside and gave me room to sit up and get dressed, etc. They are a bit pricey in the retail world, but eBay seems to have these guys sell every now and then at about half of their retail price WITH extras such as the footprint, etc.

Setup is easy, takedown is painless, the thing fits back into its stuff sack without complaining, the free standing design allows you to pick it up and shake the grit out when you are breaking camp, and it offers a "fast fly setup" configuration so that if you do elect to go really superlight, you could in theory be down to a 1lb 12oz packed weight w/the sl1.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: Robert on November 30, 2008, 04:02:33 PM
The Clip Flashlight 2 is only a few ounces more in weight, but offers a LOT more room.

My own preference is a 2 man tent which gives 1 man plenty of room plus room to store gear inside.

Funny you should mention the Clip. "One" of my backpacking tents is the Clip 3, which I use as a 2-man tent. It's a great tent with the only issue in BB is that we've camped in places where we had trouble staking it down.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: bdann on November 30, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
I have the quarter dome T1 and I'm pretty happy with it.  On the plus side, it is free standing, you can sit up in it, packs small and light.  The only real negative is it is very narrow and there is very little room inside for gear.  It is a cozy little tent though and seems to be well made.  I've spent about 10 or 12 nights in it so far and it is a big improvement over the Eureka Solitaire.  The T2 looks like it would be a good tent as well for one person, with plenty of room inside for gear.  It is pricey though. 

...speaking of the Eureka Solitaire, I've had it for a couple years now and it has turned into a loaner tent since I picked up the Quarter Dome T1.  One thing I've found with that tent is it shrinks over time just enough to make it nearly impossible to get the poles in.  My brother really struggled with it on our last trip out to Big Bend.  It also requires something like 10 stakes to properly pitch, which can be a problem at Big Bend. 
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on November 30, 2008, 10:27:21 PM
Hi stingrey!
I hear you about the BA tents! If $ were no object, a Seedhouse SL2 would probably be my next purchase. I'm keeping an eye out and if I find a bargain on one in the next couple of months I'll probably buy it. Otherwise, I'll see what is available and reasonable in Feb and make a buy then.

Hi Robert!
What's the weight of the Clip3? Just curious.

Hi bdann!
I still have the Quarter Dome on my list of possibilities. Would definitely be a step up from the Solitaire. I hope to end up with a  tent that is free-standing and that has enough room to at least sit up in part way. A little extra room for gear would be nice too.

Interesting about the Solitaire shrinking...mine was tight right out of the box and I read a few reports of pole breaks when users were struggling to get the poles inserted. I found that making sure the inner pole end was completely inserted helped when getting the poles in place. If it wasn't all of the way in, there was no way that it would slide in the rest of the way. I think I used 4 or 6 stakes on the S Rim with my Solitaire but it wasn't too windy that night. I can see needing a bunch in some circumstances. For the money, it's not a bad tent/bivy. It's just that there are so many better options out there if one is willing to spend some money. Worth doing to be more comfortable, IMHO.
   Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: Robert on December 01, 2008, 09:32:03 AM
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What's the weight of the Clip3? Just curious.

Oops. Doesn't look like they make it anymore. I think it was around 5-6 lbs.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: walkingman06 on December 01, 2008, 09:54:07 AM
I've used the Eureka Backcountry 1 http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23890 (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23890)
for the past 3 years and it's been great.  It is a three season tent, freestanding and sets up fast.  Downside is that it is nearly 4 pounds, but the comfort is worth it for me.  I got mine for under $100 at Campmor. I'll give it one more test next week on the OML.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: catz on December 15, 2008, 11:25:16 AM
I think my serious, multi-day backpacking trips are in the past. Although....if I get back into backpacking a little more, maybe that will change....
 
 
Bill

I, too, do not like to be a mule.  However, you can have some great 2 or 3 day backpack trips and only have to lug all the stuff one day.  Plan out a place to camp (preferably near a water source) where you can day hike to other places, returning to your base camp each evening.  I have done this many times in Big Bend (e.g., Mesa de Anguila; Chimneys; Mule Ears) and southern Utah.
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on December 15, 2008, 10:25:45 PM

Bill

I, too, do not like to be a mule.  However, you can have some great 2 or 3 day backpack trips and only have to lug all the stuff one day.  Plan out a place to camp (preferably near a water source) where you can day hike to other places, returning to your base camp each evening.  I have done this many times in Big Bend (e.g., Mesa de Anguila; Chimneys; Mule Ears) and southern Utah.

Hi catscats!
Yeah...that's the way I always did it back in the old days...loved to hike up into Chicago Basin in CO and spend 2-3 days hiking around that area. The trick is that there was plenty of water available all the way. I'm just now getting back into doing some backpacking and seem to be choosing places to camp without water. Maybe that's okay. Maybe I'll get more adventurous and do some multiday trips. We'll see what life brings!!
  Bill
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: TexasAggieHiker on December 16, 2008, 09:41:49 AM
I just got my new solo tent in the mail yesterday.  It's the REI Chrysalis.  It's on sale at the REI Outlet website.  http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/766994 (http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/766994)  After an online coupon, couple extra dividends, and a gift card for my birthday from the inlaws, I paid the whole sum of $9 for it after tax and shipping!!  It was easy to set up and looks like it will be great.  All the reviews are absolutely positive.  Can't wait to take it out!!!!
Title: Re: 1 Person Tent
Post by: SA Bill on December 16, 2008, 09:13:49 PM
Sounds good TAH!
The Chrysalis is on my list of possible tents. Price is right! Weight is a little more than I am shooting for. Let us know how it does in the field. I just might overlook the weight issue if it does well.
  Thanks!
    Bill