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Offline Don H

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About a tent...
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2006, 03:46:41 PM »
"My wife, bless her pea-pickin' Big Bend hatin' heart" :lol:

I just reread the initial post, that's pretty dang funny :!:
It's too bad the missus don't care for the most wonderful place in the world (just my 2 cents worth)
"Rugged isolation in a Jeep with the top down, doors off, sweaty, dusty, listening to your flavor of tunes, immersed in the most beautiful and beguiling desert mountains in all of the Southwest, the Sierra Quemada. Nothing short of spiritual cleansing. " D. Locke

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Re: footprints
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2006, 04:26:36 PM »
Quote from: "Lemming_of_the_BDA"
Are we speaking hypothetically?  :lol:

No, unfortunately.  One big hole almost an inch in diameter and a couple of other worn spots.  If and when I ever get a chance to use it again I'll see if it can be patched.
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I had never used one with my tent as I was told, or read somewhere, that a footprint just channeled water under your tent. Evidently this is not the case. More good, practical advice. Thanks!!

If your footprint extends out past the edges of your tent, then water could very well be channeled under the tent.  The footprints (even super-thin painter's drop cloth plastic) will hopefully at least keep the bottom of your tent clean and free of abrasive materials.

For an overnight trip backpacking in the Chisos, I highly recommend the SW4 campsite.  It gives you great access to the South Rim for both sunrises and sunsets.  It is pretty far from any light sources so you should have fantastic stargazing.

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2006, 05:31:18 PM »
Quote from: "RichardM"
Quote from: "Lemming_of_the_BDA"
Are we speaking hypothetically?  :lol:

No, unfortunately.  One big hole almost an inch in diameter and a couple of other worn spots.  If and when I ever get a chance to use it again I'll see if it can be patched.


I figured that was the voice of experience. I was laughing because I shared a tent with a guy like that at Lake Fork. He was up every hour it seemed. Had a bladder the size of a purely theoretical particle.


As far as the ground cover, I'm beginning to get the picture. What I had in my mind was more of a tarp for under the tent. Something that stuck out past the edges. What you're talking about is slightly smaller than the bottom on the tent, hence the name "footprint". Makes perfect sense.

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Lemming_of_the_BDA

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2006, 05:34:19 PM »
Quote from: "Don H"
"My wife, bless her pea-pickin' Big Bend hatin' heart" :lol:

I just reread the initial post, that's pretty dang funny :!:
It's too bad the missus don't care for the most wonderful place in the world (just my 2 cents worth)


She's definitely in the "DGI" category. I think that's what David calls 'em anyway. The "Don't Get It" faction. :?

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2006, 05:54:03 PM »
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The first picture is from Enchanted Rock (which is mentioned in the post  :) ).


Would never even have thought that was EROCK. Somehow, not that I don't believe you, but it just doesn't look like EROCK. Campsites seem too far apart, different vegitation, etc. Of course, I have not been there in probably 5-6 years - quit going after everyone else in the world discovered it and you had to have reservations six months in advance...  :cry:

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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2006, 05:56:14 PM »
The beauty of the pre-cut footprint with grommets is that it is cut to be slightly smaller than the bottom of the tent. It attaches to the tent poles but does not stick out past the tent/rainfly thus reducing the chance for rain to collect underneath. To clarify, it does go underneath the tent. You can use a plastic tarp for inside the tent if you need further protection.

One of the things that Sierra Designs has done for some of their tents is construct the tent in such a way that with the rainfly, poles, and footprint you can set up the tent without the tent! This allows you to use the tent in warm/dry times and save weight.

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2006, 05:57:40 PM »
Quote from: "Lemming_of_the_BDA"
FOB.


Ok, now we need a dictionary or an acryonym finder - FOB?  Certainly not Freight On Board.  Perhaps, Forward Operating Base?  :lol:

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SHANEA

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2006, 06:13:46 PM »
Quote from: "Lemming_of_the_BDA"
PDB's.


PDB?

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2006, 07:22:58 PM »
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One of the things that Sierra Designs has done for some of their tents is construct the tent in such a way that with the rainfly, poles, and footprint you can set up the tent without the tent! This allows you to use the tent in warm/dry times and save weight.


My REI, Kelty, and Marmot tents do the same thing.  It's all the rage, though I have never used this feature.
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chisos_muse

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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2006, 08:35:23 PM »
I have an REI Half Dome 2...great for 2 people, very light I think maybe 4 lbs. total? Up in 5 minutes and I have the matching footprint as well. The testimony is I was camped in BC3 and we were going to hike to the SRim but it started raining.....well we tried to go but then the lightening started and we headed back. With the rain fly in tact we basically spent the whole night in the tent...no water leakage at all.....it rained all friggin night, LOL....I have many REI brand products and they have never failed me!

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REI...
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2006, 09:25:42 PM »
David, when he returns, if he decides to return  :lol: , ought to contact REI about them putting a banner ad up on this site, maybe CAMPMOR and Whole Earth Provisions also.  Good thing I don't live near an REI, I'd be broker than I am.  Of course, I've always thought that if I did live near an REI, I'd get a p/t job for discounts, etc.  In case you are not aware, REI has some kind of a quarterly sale at their stores - garage sale/attic sale/basement sale/whatever sale that they sell off stuff returned, discountinued stuff, etc. - pennies on the dollar.   :lol:

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Acronyms
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2006, 10:35:35 PM »
PDB is probably Poor Dumb Bastard or the equivalent.
I'd have to go with Forward Operating Base for FOB.

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chisos_muse

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REI Sale
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2006, 07:03:02 AM »
Yeah we got most of our gear from that sale thingy, and Vader was a member and had an extra discount too....we spent a G I think when it was all said and done...... When I go into REI I want to buy EVERYTHING! LOL.....Most women like Neiman's, not this ol gal! Dat son of a jackal has the TPWD pass too! He prolly doesn't even use it.....

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Lemming_of_the_BDA

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2006, 07:40:06 AM »
RichardM: You nailed PDB. I forget the movie that's from, but the term stuck with me. I scrambled the other one. It's actually FBO, Fixed Base of Operation.

Found an issue of Backpacker. I'll have it worn out in no time.

My youngest has a tournament in Houston this weekend, so I probably won't get to play at REI until the 19th. Can't wait. I'm almost giddy. I'll make sure to ask when the next sale is. Sounds like a good opportunity.


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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2006, 08:57:27 AM »
Quote from: "Lemming_of_the_BDA"
My youngest has a tournament in Houston this weekend, so I probably won't get to play at REI until the 19th.

Houston has two REI stores:
http://www.rei.com/stores/houston/index.html
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http://www.rei.com/stores/willowbrook/index.html

We've also got a Whole Earth:
http://www.wholeearthprovision.com/houstonmap.html

 


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