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Another bird id please

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Offline Imre

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Another bird id please
« on: June 09, 2018, 11:01:00 AM »
Your expert opinion requested: what is this small passeriformes? Photographed late September or early October.
Thank you in advance.
Imre
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2018, 12:12:02 PM »
Immature female Hooded Warbler
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2018, 04:33:32 PM »
Immature female Hooded Warbler

I'm not sure. The cheeks are awfully dark. The distribution of dark- and light-colored feathers around the face doesn't quite fit a Hooded in my mind. My first gut instinct was an immature female Wilson's, which admittedly is a little weird, but there is a somewhat less-known darker population from the taiga, which you can see illustrated in some Sibley's guides, and it looks a lot (but not exactly) like this bird.

Still not convinced. This is almost certainly an immature female warbler. There are other species I would consider, but it would require careful study of guides and photos to parse out all the fine details. My wife and I are re-doing our kitchen this weekend, and she'll kill me if I take any more time right now, trying to ID this one. Maybe I can grab some time tonight.
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2018, 05:07:22 PM »
Olive hood and heavier bill separate this from Wilson’s
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2018, 03:26:21 PM »
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The distribution of dark- and light-colored feathers around the face doesn't quite fit a Hooded in my mind
My reaction exactly -- something not quite right here. Of course, that could be an artifact of scanning but what I have posted is a good representation of the transparencies.
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2018, 04:13:13 PM »
Bill is too robust for Wilson’s.
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2018, 07:07:55 PM »
Another vote for 1st year Female Hooded.  Not just a longer bill than Wilsons, but also the dark lores give it away.

Where was this shot?  Most of Texas is outside the standard range, but still well within the extralimital migration range.
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2018, 07:35:29 PM »
Another vote for 1st year Female Hooded.  Not just a longer bill than Wilsons, but also the dark lores give it away.

Where was this shot?  Most of Texas is outside the standard range, but still well within the extralimital migration range.

From Imre:

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Photographed late September or early October.

The photos say Quintana, so I assume that's where they were taken. (Texas coast near Freeport and a migratory hotspot - especially in spring)
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2018, 09:03:12 PM »
Badknees is correct. Quintana Neotropical Bird Sanctuary. Now I am curious whether HMoD will pull a rabbit out of a hat with an alternative to hooded.
Cheers,
Imre
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2018, 09:28:25 PM »
Badknees is correct. Quintana Neotropical Bird Sanctuary. Now I am curious whether HMoD will pull a rabbit out of a hat with an alternative to hooded.
Cheers,
Imre

I believe there are only 2 rabbits in the hat. 1- Hooded and 2- Wilson's
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2018, 05:41:00 PM »
I'M BACK.

Short story: I think Badknees is right: it's probably a Hooded Warbler, though a very odd one.

Our family has been buried under relatives in town for a week for my wife's receipt of a national community service award for work with her non-profit Big Thought, the Dallas County Juvenile Justice Department, Southern Methodist University, Highland Park United Methodist Church, the Jesters Disabilities Program, and the Amerasian Children's Society.

https://www.bigthought.org/the-incredible-lisa-schmidt/


Last of the relatives left this morning.  I have a lot of thoughts about Imre's bird, but - in the final analysis - very few doubts that it's a Hooded Warbler, albeit a very strange one with quite a few unusual similarities to a Wilson's. My thoughts involve the vagaries of photographic technology, avian variability, hybridization, and geographic evolution. I'll try to put a longer explanatory post together tonight.
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2018, 06:38:27 PM »
Thanks, HMoD. Looking forward to your analysis.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 11:31:37 AM by Imre »
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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2018, 06:57:52 AM »
Digressing from the thread, congratulations to Mrs. House.  A well-deserved honor.  (Bonus picture of HMOD, for those who haven't read the article).

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Re: Another bird id please
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2018, 07:07:31 AM »
Congrats to the Missus!


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photographic technology, avian variability, and geographic evolution

Exactly!
Not all those who wander are lost.
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