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Fleece Jacket?

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Offline SA Bill

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Fleece Jacket?
« on: August 07, 2008, 07:25:06 PM »
I'm thinking I might be well served by having a thick fleece jacket for the October S Rim overnight trip. Maybe with a hood? I'm seeing cold temps as a possibility and want something warm but not too heavy and bulky. Trying to keep the cost reasonable.

Any suggestions? 
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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 07:28:16 PM »
Oh, it's going to be cold up there in October at night. Way different than SA.... I'd bring all of your layers. Cold for us SA peeps, anyway. :icon_wink:

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 07:32:49 PM »
Layers with a windbreaker and stocking hat are probably your best bet. Any warm layer without a good wind breaker won't do the job. If you're worried about being cold a long underwear top layered with a T shirt, wool pullover sweater (Salvation Army?) and then windbreaker should work in moderate cold.  Of course you can't beat down for light and warm.  So throw in a down vest and you should be covered.  Worst case retreat to your bag.

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Offline SA Bill

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 08:18:26 PM »
That's what I'm beginning to be worried about Muse...maybe too cold. I don't want to carry 10 pounds of cold weather gear to the S Rim! Maybe I should go in September????  I'm itching to go anyway.

I hear you Al! I have a good gore tex shell that is going along as the outer layer. Got the knit cap too!  :eusa_dance: Just thought a layer of fleece would be good in case it's kinda chilly. I do have a cheesy down vest that could go along and would stuff down pretty small. I figure I'll be bedding down for the night within an hour or two of sundown anyway so snuggling down in the sleeping bag is already on the agenda.
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    Bill
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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 09:40:32 PM »
My working theory for October is, if you're cold, get in your sleeping bag. Make sure you have dry base layers (top, bottom, socks) to change into once your campsite is set up, take an insulating layer (fleece or down), and a wind-breaking layer, and something for rain. Nice wool beanie adds degrees to your warmth. Take a pair of fleece gloves. You'll be fine.
Jeff Blaylock
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Offline Burn Ban

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 09:58:13 PM »
i agree, fleece is nice.  first and foremost, keep your head warm.

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 11:05:33 PM »
i agree, fleece is nice.  first and foremost, keep your head warm.
I agree, and a hoodie is a great thing to have on a cold rim night with that air blowing across your face from the desert floor 2000 feet below on a cloudless starlit night.....yep, it's worth going.

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2008, 08:28:20 AM »
Scotch good single malt, Scotch good single malt.  That's layering. :eusa_whistle: :eusa_whistle:
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Offline Robert

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2008, 09:08:49 AM »
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take an insulating layer (fleece or down), and a wind-breaking layer, and something for rain.

Sort of what I do except my rain jacket also serves as a windbreaker. I think I have a Marmot Precip and it is a very lightweight shell.

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Offline SA Bill

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2008, 08:48:31 PM »
Fleece is on the way! I hope this is like what I think it's like...and doesn't weigh 4 pounds!
I ordered one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/6ayzbo

Had to get the electric blue...not my first choice...but on sale that's the only choice I had.

My hope is that this will do for my main thermal layer...perhaps combined with a cheapo down vest that I have if it looks like it will be cold the night I'm on the Rim. My rain/wind jacket will be the outer layer. I've got a good knit cap to go under the hoodie so I shouldn't lose too much heat from the top end...even though I no longer have any appreciable head hair...due to genetics and personal choice.

I also ordered a Camelbak for water transport:
http://tinyurl.com/634jsa

Between this and some emptied soda bottles, I should be able to carry my 6 liters of water without too much trouble...I hope.
  Bill
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Offline Al

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2008, 09:54:43 PM »
Shoot, next month buy one of these and you might should bring a bandanna to wipe the sweat from your forehead . . . but don't forget the down vest. 

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,12040_Terramar-Long-Underwear-Silk-EC2-Crew-Neck-Long-Sleeve-For-Men.html?cm_mmc=PaidPlacement-_-Shopzilla-_-WBIZ8-_-Terramar_Long_Underwear_-_Silk_EC2%EF%BF%BD_Crew_Neck_Long_Sleeve_-_For_Men

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2008, 10:05:15 PM »
The rule of thumb in the winter in Big Bend is . . . when the sun goes down it gets cold.  Sooo, start with a warm bottom layer, long underwear and add layers as it gets colder.  You want to keep the heat by your body.  As you add layers they should be snug and not loose so as you move you don't pump the air heated by your body out into the ambient air.  Snug is good, loose is not so good.

Al

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2008, 10:13:36 PM »
Bill you'll have to let us know how good that fleece is.  That's a really good deal.

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Offline SA Bill

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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2008, 10:40:08 PM »
I don't know Al....silk undies!? Not sure I could pull that off. Seriously, I've never had anything silk. Lots of synthetics...no silk. Is it really warm?

I hear you about the temps after sundown. Once I lose enough light for taking pics, I'll be snuggled in the sleeping bag!

Will do TAH! I'm hoping for the best but buying without first hand knowledge is sometimes a shot in the dark. Sometimes you get a hit...sometimes you don't. If the jacket is too heavy or not good for backpacking for some other reason, it can do duty around the yard when it's chilly outside this fall.
   Bill
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Re: Fleece Jacket?
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2008, 10:44:59 PM »
Bill, trust me on this.  Silk or nylon long underwear tops are manna from the Gods when the sun goes down.

Al

 


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