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How to pick a kayak

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Ray52

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2008, 07:39:45 PM »
Homero....this was my other Tarpon 120....it now belongs to BDann.



I still have one just like it, same color and everything.  I'm not sure if I have pictures of my Ultimate 12 but believe Brian or Shane may have posted some after our outing last August.  Try looking in the "bender parties" area for a post regarding east Texas.

and FYI....that wisp of a man in my photo isn't me.

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2008, 08:21:44 PM »
Ray's Ultimate 12 (Ray on the left)


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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2008, 08:24:54 PM »
Not a very good photo, but here's the gator I saw at Martin Dies JR SP...

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 08:35:22 PM »
Quote from: Ray52 wrote:
and FYI....that wisp of a man in my photo isn't me.

 Maybe it is not you, but he has the same T-shirt and Cap as you in your avatar...where was the sale at?

 Still looking at information, guys...will get back with more questions.
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oldfatman

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 09:07:44 PM »
Homero,
I am not able yet to attach pics so the best I can do is send you to www.folbot.com to see the whole lineup they offer.  I have the Yukon and in the past have had a Kodiak and a Kiawah.  Been around owners of the Greenland II. These are some of the many good ones out there. Ray52 probably can help more than I can with the rigid kayaks. Have fun.

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Ray52

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2008, 09:17:37 PM »
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Maybe it is not you, but he has the same T-shirt and Cap as you in your avatar...where was the sale at?

Hah....well there are some similarities.  He's a great friend and hiking and paddling companion and although 20 years my junior has almost matched my bare scalp too :icon_lol:

If you haven't already found this site, www.texaskayakfishe rman.com has a wealth of info and opinions to help your research.  Kinda like logging on to BBC to learn about Big Bend.  

OFM...what do you think about your Folbot?  I've had a fascination with them for many, many years but haven't ever had an opportunity to try one.

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2008, 10:06:42 PM »
Homero,
I am not able yet to attach pics so the best I can do is send you to www.folbot.com to see the whole lineup they offer.  I have the Yukon and in the past have had a Kodiak and a Kiawah.  Been around owners of the Greenland II. These are some of the many good ones out there. Ray52 probably can help more than I can with the rigid kayaks. Have fun.

 Odfatman, I assume this is the one you have:






  How does it take water, when you get in?...where do you store your stuff in?...what is your general Experience?

 Ray52...what Kayaks do you still have?
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oldfatman

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2008, 08:48:32 AM »
Yes that is the one I have only in green.  I got it secondhand. The folbots are very tough.  The lower hull is the same type of material used in wild water river rafts. Typical of sit in kayaks all your gear is stowed in the the bow and stern. Folbot makes two styles. The higher speed models Cooper, Kiawah. The vans of the paddling world Greenland II, Yukon, Aleut, Edisto and one in between called the Kodiak.  I need the folding ability since everything I own is in a truck and 21 foot travel trailer.  The Yukon is a very directional kayak.  It wants to go straight no matter the wind or waves. For a quick turn you have to roll it up on a side some to get the bow and stern out of the water.  Other wise it takes things very gently.  I like a boat that lets me not have to paddle every minute. I can just sit and watch the scenery or take pictures etc without having to worry about balancing the boat.  These boats behave very much like any other kayak of the same dimensions except being a little more directional than most.  I want the directional charactoristic because of the winds I tend to get mixed up with. The ridgid boats and these folding boats are all very good.  My setup and take down time is usually about 30 minutes or longer if there are onlookers asking questions. Please ask any other questions. I think between RAY52 and me we can cover the whole spectrum of this type of water hiking.

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2008, 10:11:38 AM »
I agree, The other forums are interesting, but visiting them would mean spending some tiem finding the topic that i need, when in here i can find members who practice specific sports or have some equipment that i want to consult. I think for the moment, I will stick with you guys.

  I can't find the image of the Kayak i saw in Cabelas that splits like a "Y" right behind the seat, I want to know what is that for.

 So how do you stow your equipment on your Kayak?..do you have any pictures?
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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2008, 10:13:02 AM »
Those Folbots look pretty darn cool.  My brother could throw one of those in the back of his volkswagen bug.  (speaking of Bugs, OFM - if you're still at Lady Bird on 4/19, you're gonna be surrounded by them  :icon_lol: ).

and speaking of wind...I got caught up in some serious wind yesterday afternoon, and got soaked head to toe in the process.  The Tarpon just slices through the waves, you can paddle right into the wind, no problem...you just get really wet.  Fun!
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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2008, 10:14:01 AM »

  I can't find the image of the Kayak i saw in Cabelas that splits like a "Y" right behind the seat, I want to know what is that for.


I think it's made for fishermen...so they can easily stand up and cast.
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oldfatman

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2008, 11:05:41 AM »
I just put my truck into the local GM dealer shop.  My rent runs out Mar.19. If I have the truck back in good shape, I will head for Bibe on the 19th. My plan is to get there on the 24th for as long as I can stand it without internet to publish my blog. If that "bug" picture panned about 100 feet left, it would show where I am camped.  Who knows I may have to come back for that event on my way to Palo Duro Canyon.

On the folbot site they tell you the bags sizes.  Normally the bags can hold about 40% more than just the boat.  The folbots can easily be carried assembled like any ridgid kayak.  If I am in an area to use it often, I leave it assembled and roof carry it on some Yakima racks. I have carried mine in a Camry and on top of the Camry.

Homero, the sit in yaks all  carry equipment the same way.  If getting wet is bad, you put it in drybags and stuff it in the bow or stern. If it can stand wet, just put it in any bag and stuff it in the bow or stern.  Go to wwwfolbotforum.com and those folks have lots of info on storing and packing and every other question you do not even know to ask.  Most of it is applicable to any sea kayak.  I took my kayak lessons on a SOT and loved it.  It there was a SOT that folded enough I would have one now.  You can expect to have wet happening on either type. Drips and splashes happen so plan on some dampness. There are some variations that RAY52 can probably speak more authoritively about than I. By the way I love the way the Tarpon 120 and Tarpon 140 handle.
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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2008, 10:21:53 PM »
 They have the Pelican Castaway Kayak on sale this week at Academy's. What do you think fellas?


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oldfatman

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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2008, 10:30:36 PM »
From what I have seen happen to the Pelican brand in the past I would not want one.  Many of them have had warped hulls and even one had a longitudinal twist in the hull while it sat at the Academy store in Pasadena Texas. In the real world they have been known for being a difficult boat to keep in a straight line since they generally have a curve built in one direction or another.  This applies to the canoes as well.  For $400 look on the internet for a better model used. The materials are fine, but the quality of construction has not been to my liking in the past.
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Re: How to pick a kayak
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2008, 10:54:28 AM »


Also have plans to paddle the Brazos River downstream from Possum Kingdom Lake, but haven't quite gotten that trip worked out yet, keeps getting canceled.  I've actually done that trip before, in a canoe, long time ago.  



bdann,
that is such a great trip. I love canoeing on the Brazos. I've done that stretch just below Possum Kingdom a good number of times and it never gets old. I've done it a time or two in a two person kayak as well. It's always a great time.
Here is a pic of my son and I on the Brazos from a trip in 2005. Great memories. I really need to get back there.
"...There is a pessimism about land which, after it has been with you a long time, becomes merely factual. Men increase; country suffers. " John Graves 'Goodbye to a River'

 


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