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Title: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 10, 2008, 12:03:41 PM
thanks Homero.  Here's the boat, Wilderness Systems Tarpon 120, purchased from Ray52 last October. 
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j131/bdann/P1020202.jpg)

Nice Kayak there.... :eusa_clap:

 I have been pondering a bit, There are good places to go kayaking around here: Amistad Lake, Seminole Canyon,Garner Park, Corpus Christi and Port Aransas, nice lagoon there to paddle ,then you you have your places, this side of the fence....(being sarcastic here :icon_biggrin:). The last time I went over to Cabelas, I saw many different models to choose from, maybe more than i can mustard to choose, but i know there are Sit on tops, sit ins,ones that split like a "y" in the back, can't figure what for and others for sea kayaking and fresh water kayaking.

  How do you choose the best one for you?, is there an article,chart or video to check out?. BTW, this could be a good start of a discussion.

 Homero
Title: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 10, 2008, 01:28:18 PM
I think you have to try one out and decide if it's right for you.  I had the opportunity to use mine before I bought it, before it was for sale in fact, and I really liked it.  

Here's an article on choosing a kayak:

http://www.austinkayak.com/articles/kayakchoose.php

I like the "sit on top" variety, mainly because they are easy to get in out and out of.  Mine has enough storage that I could take it on over night trips if I wanted, though I'd have to keep the gear to a minimum.  
Title: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on March 10, 2008, 01:33:57 PM
Homero and others.  There is two basic kayak hull styles.  White water and sea kayak.  White water is a very quick and manueverable boat for running fast moving rivers while not carrying much more than a person etc.  Sea Kayaks are more of the open water going someplace style of hull usually capable of carrying supplies for overnighting for weeks at a time.  www.paddling.net has lots of info on the site to help choose which is right for your needs. Be careful of your weight as a kayak with excess weight is like paddling a log.  The sea kayaks come in sit on top (SOT) as well as sit inside.  There are several variations of the interior you will find, but no matter the seating arrangement there still is basically only two styles of hull. Almost all folks in the recreation paddling group will want a sea kayak style of hull.  The Tarpon 120 pictured is one of the better SOT sea kayaks for general recreation, but many others are just a good.  Homero I intend to be back in Del Rio this summer with my Folbot Yukon to test the Amistad waters for my self.  Amistad is a big destination for Texas Kayakers.  Please always wear a PFD sized for your weight. I hate retreiving bodies from the water.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 10, 2008, 03:13:28 PM
I knew this thread was bound to be chopped off...... :icon_lol:

Old fatman: I always wear a PFD, even when i take a shower :eusa_eh:...although my wife, is really trying to convince me to take it off when i go to the bathroom to do my thing. :eusa_think:

Quote from: Okeihiker wrote
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Homero,

Do you think there would be any problem canoeing Canon Peguis? (in terms of permission, land ownership, etc.)

  I am sure you mean  Ca?on Peguis, Oki...but where is this place?, care to enlightend ?, and gladly will share my experience.

 Will read the article , and come back with some more thoughts.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Ray52 on March 10, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
Homero.....I have extensive experience in SOT's and whitewater boats and highly recommend that you give it a try.  The Tarpon 120 that Brian has is a classic that is very versatile and has been imitated by quite a few other designs.  I still have one exactly like it, and a newer Native Watercraft Ultimate 12 which is a more wide open design and not self draining.  At first glance it resembles a small canoe with one seat in the middle.  Things to consider when you choose a boat are your size and what you'll be carrying with you and the boats intended purpose.  I use both of mine for exploring the bayous and marshes here but prefer the Tarpon by a wide margin for playing in the surf at the beach. I'm envious of Brian in that he can take his dog along (as pictured on another thread).  I'm around 220# and my Chesapeake is right at 100# so we would max out either of my boat's capacities.  Poor planning on my part so I suppose I'll either be adding a traditional canoe, or a larger kayak sometime soon.  Well I guess I could get back on my diet and lose 40 pounds.....I definitely have it to spare!  I also have a Perception Dancer XT vintage 1987 hanging on my wall....a fine whitewater boat in its day but it bears no resemblance to the current generation of whitewater play boats.  Technology hasn't been limited to computers, telephones, or route finding devices, but my red devil would still carry me safely through the 3's and 4's I loved to paddle.  

I respectfully differ with OFM's categories of boats as I consider sea kayaks an entirely different type of craft.  I hope to try one sometime but have zero experience to express any opinions about them now.  

As you can probably tell, this is one of my greatest passions and I could go on and on, but think this is a good stopping point.  But keep in mind....we will probably have another soiree with friends and boats sometime this summer and you will be most welcome to join us.  If so, you are welcome to try any of my boats and who knows....you might get the bug?  You think, Bdann?

  
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on March 10, 2008, 05:27:52 PM
Ray52, I agree with you.  My purpose was an attempt at extreme simplification of kayaks for the absolute beginner just starting to look at kayaks. In the past I have overwhelmed folks with too much detail.  Go for it and talk about the reality of all the differences that do make differences in real paddling.  I doubt that we have any real disagreement other than my attempt at simplification. Kayaks are the most fun I have had on the water in my life and to me much safer than the canoes I have had.  At the rate my knees are falling apart in a couple of years I will likely have to give up hiking and biking for only kayaking and golf. Not really a bad future if you think about it. For the Big Bend river I would choose and appropriate kayak over a canoe any time.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 10, 2008, 06:07:53 PM
you might get the bug?  You think, Bdann?

Having been a canoe paddler my whole life, I never gave a thought to trying a kayak until I tried Ray's and I was hooked immediately.  Definitely looking forward to our next boat-centric outing. 
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 10, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
Homero.....I have extensive experience in SOT's and whitewater boats and highly recommend that you give it a try. 

As you can probably tell, this is one of my greatest passions and I could go on and on, but think this is a good stopping point.  But keep in mind....we will probably have another soiree with friends and boats sometime this summer and you will be most welcome to join us.  If so, you are welcome to try any of my boats and who knows....you might get the bug?  You think, Bdann?   

 Yes sir I am interested, but like always and here we all have something to say, what i want to avoid is to buy a kayak and then not being the one I needed...flipping over all the time,taking in water, and basically NOT enjoying it until you eventually toss it away.....like my friend Jose Trevi?o did in Lake Amistad........ Spanish is not required to enjoy this video  (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LeyX91HzbkE)

 I get a kick out of it, everytime i see it.... :icon_lol:, have a laugh for a Monday day.

 Now, i will read Bdann's article and will return with more thoughts.

Moderator Note:  Peguis Canyon discussion moved to Canoeing Peguis Canyon (http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/serranias-del-burro-del-carmens-el-carmen/canoeing-peguis-canyon-t5543.0.html)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 10, 2008, 11:54:50 PM
While I was gathering information on another board, I found this great page on   Paddling Lake Amistad  (http://www.nps.gov/archive/amis/paddlingamistad.htm) and some Paddling trails as well.

  Paddle Trail 1  (http://home.nps.gov/applications/parks/amis/ppMaps/Paddle_Trail_1.pdf)

  Paddle Trail 2  (http://home.nps.gov/applications/parks/amis/ppMaps/Paddle_Trail_2.pdf)

  Paddle Trail 3  (http://home.nps.gov/applications/parks/amis/ppMaps/Paddle_Trail_3.pdf)

  Paddle Trail 4  (http://home.nps.gov/applications/parks/amis/ppMaps/Paddle_Trail_4.pdf)

 Oldfatman is right: There are hundreds of places you can go at Lake Amistad, and you have not even touched the Mexican side with it's Ca?on del Soldado, Ca?on del Burro, and I believe is Ca?on del Caballo..plus all the other small canyons on both sides of the lake and river.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 11, 2008, 11:14:02 AM
thanks for the links Homero, Amistad is definitely on my list.  too bad it's 400 something miles away.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on March 11, 2008, 11:35:20 AM
BDANN,
Between you and Amistad is a lifetime worth of paddleing. Lake Lavon east of you was great fun a few years ago. The Texas State Parks system has paddle trails set up in numerous places around the state. Near Port Aransas is a huge set of marked trails.  Near Goliad is another. 

Homero,
Do not forget Falcon Lake a little south of Amistad. It is very accessable also.

Any body of water is a candidate. I did quit floating in the Texas streams that had alligators.  Do not like playing with alligators.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 11, 2008, 12:33:42 PM
I have a friend in Laredo,Tx. whom i have never met, except online. Much like many folks here, funny, anyway. He shares with me pictures where he goes kayaking, and he says that he likes to Kayak in Kennedy Lake , over in Laredo and he stumbles with a lot of these babies. He says they don't bother him, but I don't think i am going to be paddling anytime soon with him, when your surrounded by crocs.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/KennedyLake (Medium).JPG)

 He's been to many places in Mexico,like this one in La Huasteca where he says it is awsome to kayak all the way down to the cascading waters and enjoy the water spary there.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/i_1 (Medium).jpg)

 Let me see if i have somevideos of him kayaking in Laguna Madre in Corpus Christi (Hejira & Roy's backyard)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Ray52 on March 11, 2008, 01:00:34 PM
The gators outnumber the kayaks here.  This one was willing to let me approach to about 5 feet. (http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/covetexas.JPG)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 11, 2008, 01:10:17 PM
BDANN,
Between you and Amistad is a lifetime worth of paddleing. Lake Lavon east of you was great fun a few years ago. The Texas State Parks system has paddle trails set up in numerous places around the state. Near Port Aransas is a huge set of marked trails.  Near Goliad is another. 

Homero,
Do not forget Falcon Lake a little south of Amistad. It is very accessable also.

Any body of water is a candidate. I did quit floating in the Texas streams that had alligators.  Do not like playing with alligators.

I haven't been out on Lavon yet (North of me actually), I live in Rowlett near Lake Ray Hubbard, which is where I usually paddle.  There's a nice protected area near my house with lots of trees (keeps motor boats away).  I'm going to Lake Tawakoni in a few weeks, though not yet sure if I'm taking my kayak.  Can't seem to get my brothers on board with the whole kayaking business, they have other priorities I guess.  

I also go out on Cedar Creek Lake, but haven't found the paddling to be all the great just yet.  My parent's have a house there on the water, so I can launch right from the yard.  But once you get out of their channel, it's usually pretty rough going with all the boat traffic.

Also have plans to paddle the Brazos River downstream from Possum Kingdom Lake, but haven't quite gotten that trip worked out yet, keeps getting canceled.  I've actually done that trip before, in a canoe, long time ago.  

Homero, I encountered a gator with Ray52 and ShaneA at Martin Dies Jr SP, it definitely got my heart rate up for a minute.  Don't have those photos here...
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 11, 2008, 08:17:15 PM
Homero, I encountered a gator with Ray52 and ShaneA at Martin Dies Jr SP, it definitely got my heart rate up for a minute.  Don't have those photos here...

 Yes, Kayaking seems to be more interesting as i read futher more: Some videos i found, on another chatboard for serious kayakers, I assume this ones are sea kayaks by the description on Bdann's article: how to pick a kayak.

 Anyway, this is   Kayak fishing Sharks  (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jiDaZB-swWA) , definetly these guys know what they are doing or they would be free bait for any shark out there.

 This one even made the news:   Kayak fishing for Marlin Bluewater  (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8KNtyPbsSI&feature=related)

 Ray52 , Oldfatman and who ever reads this thread that has a kayak: do you guys and ladies have any pictures of your kayaks?

Quote from: Bdann wrote:
Homero, I encountered a gator with Ray52 and ShaneA at Martin Dies Jr SP, it definitely got my heart rate up for a minute.  Don't have those photos here...

 Post them , when ever you can Bdann..

Quote from: Oldfatman wrote:
Homero,
Do not forget Falcon Lake a little south of Amistad. It is very accessable also.

 You are correct, Falcon Lake is very beautiful indeed...a little bit down the Rio Grande river though, but none the less interesting. I agree.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Ray52 on March 12, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
Homero....this was my other Tarpon 120....it now belongs to BDann.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/labayou.jpg)

I still have one just like it, same color and everything.  I'm not sure if I have pictures of my Ultimate 12 but believe Brian or Shane may have posted some after our outing last August.  Try looking in the "bender parties" area for a post regarding east Texas.

and FYI....that wisp of a man in my photo isn't me.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 12, 2008, 08:21:44 PM
Ray's Ultimate 12 (Ray on the left)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j131/bdann/P1010586.jpg)

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j131/bdann/P1010582.jpg)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 12, 2008, 08:24:54 PM
Not a very good photo, but here's the gator I saw at Martin Dies JR SP...

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j131/bdann/gator.jpg)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 12, 2008, 08:35:22 PM
Quote from: Ray52 wrote:
and FYI....that wisp of a man in my photo isn't me.

 Maybe it is not you, but he has the same T-shirt and Cap as you in your avatar...where was the sale at?

 Still looking at information, guys...will get back with more questions.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on March 12, 2008, 09:07:44 PM
Homero,
I am not able yet to attach pics so the best I can do is send you to www.folbot.com to see the whole lineup they offer.  I have the Yukon and in the past have had a Kodiak and a Kiawah.  Been around owners of the Greenland II. These are some of the many good ones out there. Ray52 probably can help more than I can with the rigid kayaks. Have fun.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Ray52 on March 12, 2008, 09:17:37 PM
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Maybe it is not you, but he has the same T-shirt and Cap as you in your avatar...where was the sale at?

Hah....well there are some similarities.  He's a great friend and hiking and paddling companion and although 20 years my junior has almost matched my bare scalp too :icon_lol:

If you haven't already found this site, www.texaskayakfishe rman.com has a wealth of info and opinions to help your research.  Kinda like logging on to BBC to learn about Big Bend.  

OFM...what do you think about your Folbot?  I've had a fascination with them for many, many years but haven't ever had an opportunity to try one.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 12, 2008, 10:06:42 PM
Homero,
I am not able yet to attach pics so the best I can do is send you to www.folbot.com to see the whole lineup they offer.  I have the Yukon and in the past have had a Kodiak and a Kiawah.  Been around owners of the Greenland II. These are some of the many good ones out there. Ray52 probably can help more than I can with the rigid kayaks. Have fun.

 Odfatman, I assume this is the one you have:

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/yukonside.jpg)


(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/yukontop.jpg)

  How does it take water, when you get in?...where do you store your stuff in?...what is your general Experience?

 Ray52...what Kayaks do you still have?
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on March 13, 2008, 08:48:32 AM
Yes that is the one I have only in green.  I got it secondhand. The folbots are very tough.  The lower hull is the same type of material used in wild water river rafts. Typical of sit in kayaks all your gear is stowed in the the bow and stern. Folbot makes two styles. The higher speed models Cooper, Kiawah. The vans of the paddling world Greenland II, Yukon, Aleut, Edisto and one in between called the Kodiak.  I need the folding ability since everything I own is in a truck and 21 foot travel trailer.  The Yukon is a very directional kayak.  It wants to go straight no matter the wind or waves. For a quick turn you have to roll it up on a side some to get the bow and stern out of the water.  Other wise it takes things very gently.  I like a boat that lets me not have to paddle every minute. I can just sit and watch the scenery or take pictures etc without having to worry about balancing the boat.  These boats behave very much like any other kayak of the same dimensions except being a little more directional than most.  I want the directional charactoristic because of the winds I tend to get mixed up with. The ridgid boats and these folding boats are all very good.  My setup and take down time is usually about 30 minutes or longer if there are onlookers asking questions. Please ask any other questions. I think between RAY52 and me we can cover the whole spectrum of this type of water hiking.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 13, 2008, 10:11:38 AM
I agree, The other forums are interesting, but visiting them would mean spending some tiem finding the topic that i need, when in here i can find members who practice specific sports or have some equipment that i want to consult. I think for the moment, I will stick with you guys.

  I can't find the image of the Kayak i saw in Cabelas that splits like a "Y" right behind the seat, I want to know what is that for.

 So how do you stow your equipment on your Kayak?..do you have any pictures?
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 13, 2008, 10:13:02 AM
Those Folbots look pretty darn cool.  My brother could throw one of those in the back of his volkswagen bug.  (speaking of Bugs, OFM - if you're still at Lady Bird on 4/19 (http://www.texasvwclassic.com/), you're gonna be surrounded by them  :icon_lol: ).

and speaking of wind...I got caught up in some serious wind yesterday afternoon, and got soaked head to toe in the process.  The Tarpon just slices through the waves, you can paddle right into the wind, no problem...you just get really wet.  Fun!
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on March 13, 2008, 10:14:01 AM

  I can't find the image of the Kayak i saw in Cabelas that splits like a "Y" right behind the seat, I want to know what is that for.


I think it's made for fishermen...so they can easily stand up and cast.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on March 13, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
I just put my truck into the local GM dealer shop.  My rent runs out Mar.19. If I have the truck back in good shape, I will head for Bibe on the 19th. My plan is to get there on the 24th for as long as I can stand it without internet to publish my blog. If that "bug" picture panned about 100 feet left, it would show where I am camped.  Who knows I may have to come back for that event on my way to Palo Duro Canyon.

On the folbot site they tell you the bags sizes.  Normally the bags can hold about 40% more than just the boat.  The folbots can easily be carried assembled like any ridgid kayak.  If I am in an area to use it often, I leave it assembled and roof carry it on some Yakima racks. I have carried mine in a Camry and on top of the Camry.

Homero, the sit in yaks all  carry equipment the same way.  If getting wet is bad, you put it in drybags and stuff it in the bow or stern. If it can stand wet, just put it in any bag and stuff it in the bow or stern.  Go to wwwfolbotforum.com and those folks have lots of info on storing and packing and every other question you do not even know to ask.  Most of it is applicable to any sea kayak.  I took my kayak lessons on a SOT and loved it.  It there was a SOT that folded enough I would have one now.  You can expect to have wet happening on either type. Drips and splashes happen so plan on some dampness. There are some variations that RAY52 can probably speak more authoritively about than I. By the way I love the way the Tarpon 120 and Tarpon 140 handle.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on March 16, 2008, 10:21:53 PM
 They have the Pelican Castaway Kayak on sale this week at Academy's. What do you think fellas?


(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pelican castaway.jpg)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on March 16, 2008, 10:30:36 PM
From what I have seen happen to the Pelican brand in the past I would not want one.  Many of them have had warped hulls and even one had a longitudinal twist in the hull while it sat at the Academy store in Pasadena Texas. In the real world they have been known for being a difficult boat to keep in a straight line since they generally have a curve built in one direction or another.  This applies to the canoes as well.  For $400 look on the internet for a better model used. The materials are fine, but the quality of construction has not been to my liking in the past.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: lighter fluid on March 27, 2008, 10:54:28 AM


Also have plans to paddle the Brazos River downstream from Possum Kingdom Lake, but haven't quite gotten that trip worked out yet, keeps getting canceled.  I've actually done that trip before, in a canoe, long time ago.  



bdann,
that is such a great trip. I love canoeing on the Brazos. I've done that stretch just below Possum Kingdom a good number of times and it never gets old. I've done it a time or two in a two person kayak as well. It's always a great time.
Here is a pic of my son and I on the Brazos from a trip in 2005. Great memories. I really need to get back there.
(http://thehikersforum.com/Tommynabsalargemouth.JPG)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on April 01, 2008, 03:32:08 PM
Guys...a friend on another chat board is highly recommending this model:  Featherlite 12  (http://www.heritagekayaks.com/featherlite12.htm). He states tha it breaks water well, has a good hull and you can stash a lot of gear in there. What do you think?

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/2007_featherlt_12.jpg)
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Ray52 on April 01, 2008, 05:55:57 PM
It looks like a really versatile design Homero.  I don't have any experience with Heritage boats but have heard good things about them.  Both of my boats are 12 footers too.  I like that size because they're easy to haul in my pick-up so I didn't have to buy a rack, and also fairly easy to load and carry to the water.  Next we'll hear that you bought it and are planning to attend our 2nd Annual East Texas Benders Kayak rendezvous.  Right :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Ray52 on April 01, 2008, 06:03:03 PM
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Here is a pic of my son and I on the Brazos

What a cool picture LF.  My son and I have a lot of great memories from our times together in a canoe and more recently in our kayaks.  Now if I can just convince him to go to Big Bend with me and hike the South Rim before I'm too old.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: homerboy2u on April 01, 2008, 10:24:54 PM
Yeap, bet on it. That is the reason i don't have too much money to throw away,and i want to buy me the best possible kayak at the best price. Patience can be a good virtue. Still reading your comments fellas.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: bdann on April 02, 2008, 09:11:43 AM
Homero, I've seen that boat at Academy stores.  It seems like a pretty nice boat and it's very inexpensive.  I've been looking around for a 2nd boat to have so I can take another person paddling with me, that one is definitely on my radar. 
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: oldfatman on April 04, 2008, 05:27:01 PM
The Heritage line of boats is just fine.  The Pelican line is not.  The few Heritage boats I have seen in the water tracked well without a lot of effort.  The Pelicans did not. Thats my opinion only.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Boojum1 on April 07, 2008, 03:44:54 PM
Yeap, bet on it. That is the reason i don't have too much money to throw away,and i want to buy me the best possible kayak at the best price. Patience can be a good virtue. Still reading your comments fellas.

How did I miss this thread?  Homero, like me, you seem to have a really good liquid grain storage facility.  Make sure the boat can handle the weight and is above all, comfortable. The other consideration is sit on top or sit inside.  As a young man, I liked the sit inside type, but now that I'm older, and less flexible, I like the sit on top style.  They are cooler to use in summer than the sit inside also.  If you ever wet exit, the sit on tops are easier to remount, IMO.  Some of the best advice I ever gave a friend who was kayak shopping, and that he actually followed, was to buy one of each kind.   No regrets and he just got his third one.   I recommend a good kayak paddle also, plus maybe a take down type to carry as a spare. 

Full disclosure, I don't own one, just been doing my research for 18 years since I spent 3 weeks sea kayak touring in Baja California Sur.  Somewhere in there I had a kid that sort of sidetracked the fun money.  Maybe I'll get myself a kayak for my kid's high school graduation gift....

Craigslist-Austin usually has a lot of used kayak listings.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: lighter fluid on April 08, 2008, 08:57:44 PM
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Here is a pic of my son and I on the Brazos

What a cool picture LF.  My son and I have a lot of great memories from our times together in a canoe and more recently in our kayaks.  Now if I can just convince him to go to Big Bend with me and hike the South Rim before I'm too old.

Ray52,
I am finally getting my son to Big Bend this weekend. (April 11-14)
:icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: Ray52 on April 16, 2008, 06:03:25 AM
So how did it go LF?  My guess is "awesome".  Would love to hear your report.
Title: Re: How to pick a kayak
Post by: lighter fluid on April 16, 2008, 09:40:09 AM
So how did it go LF?  My guess is "awesome".  Would love to hear your report.

Well Ray52,
Sadly  :icon_frown:, it didn't go.
http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/el-salon/my-weekend-bibe-trip-gets-postponed-t5723.0.html (http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/el-salon/my-weekend-bibe-trip-gets-postponed-t5723.0.html)
Title: Some Kayak forums to check out
Post by: homerboy2u on April 21, 2008, 02:42:42 PM
My brother in law , sent me today these two links to check them out,He says they give a very sound advise for kayaking ang gearing up your vessel.Honestly, right now i don't have time to view them  but i would appreciate if some one could do that for me and post an opinion about it.

  Kayakfishingstuff.com  (http://kayakfishingstuff.com/)

  Kayakfishinggear.com  (http://kayakfishinggear.com/)

 your thoughts are deeply welcomed.

Homero