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Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert

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Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« on: August 13, 2017, 03:46:56 PM »
This is an interesting discussion on clothing and clothing theory for the hot, dry desert at Backpacking Light.  As usual some crazy stuff but some really good details too.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
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Offline Homer Wilson

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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2017, 11:12:16 AM »
Yeah, actually a decent conversation.  A lot of what I've read online about desert clothing is pretty bogus.  For me though, the best clothes for hiking in desert weather are also terrible if you have to go offtrail in the desert and encounter lech, catclaw, etc.

My girlfriend is in complete disbelief that I prefer long sleeves and pants when hiking in the desert.  But it's hard to imagine how brutal exposure to the desert sun can be.  Or maybe it's just that my skin is whiter than an eggshell.

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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2017, 12:15:36 PM »
For me though, the best clothes for hiking in desert weather are also terrible if you have to go offtrail in the desert and encounter lech, catclaw, etc.

I am confused. Are you saying the best clothes for desert hiking is something other than long sleeves and pants unless you go off trail?

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My girlfriend is in complete disbelief that I prefer long sleeves and pants when hiking in the desert.

Covering up in the desert is smart no matter where you hike.

Only the temporary visitors (tourists) to the desert think and act otherwise.
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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2017, 03:17:00 PM »
Sun exposure is only one good reason to cover up.  Every plant int he desert has thorns and possesses an angry disposition toward exposed skin!
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself and to be amazed.

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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2017, 07:00:18 PM »
Sun exposure is only one good reason to cover up.  Every plant int he desert has thorns and possesses an angry disposition toward exposed skin!

Indeed, and that is why I hike wearing leather gloves.
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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 02:01:02 PM »
Sun exposure is only one good reason to cover up.  Every plant int he desert has thorns and possesses an angry disposition toward exposed skin!

Indeed, and that is why I hike wearing leather gloves.

Total agreement: gloves are on my list every single time.
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself and to be amazed.

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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 04:13:37 PM »
Sun exposure is only one good reason to cover up.  Every plant int he desert has thorns and possesses an angry disposition toward exposed skin!

Indeed, and that is why I hike wearing leather gloves.
Total agreement: gloves are on my list every single time.

You fellas need to either walk more deliberately or learn to take a few hits.  I only have carried gloves when I expect some sharp rock scrambling or rappelling.  Maybe if I knew I was going to try to force my way up some catclaw filled wash, which I avoid like the plague.  But then I don't mind a few encounters with some thorns.



temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
http://40yearsofwalking.wordpress.com/

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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 09:53:13 PM »
For me though, the best clothes for hiking in desert weather are also terrible if you have to go offtrail in the desert and encounter lech, catclaw, etc.

I am confused. Are you saying the best clothes for desert hiking is something other than long sleeves and pants unless you go off trail?

Nope,  but I end up wearing thicker, more durable clothes than normal if I know I'm going to be pushing through brush. 

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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2017, 11:01:15 PM »
For me though, the best clothes for hiking in desert weather are also terrible if you have to go offtrail in the desert and encounter lech, catclaw, etc.

I am confused. Are you saying the best clothes for desert hiking is something other than long sleeves and pants unless you go off trail?

Nope,  but I end up wearing thicker, more durable clothes than normal if I know I'm going to be pushing through brush.

Okay, thanks.

As for your girlfriend's reaction to you covering up, she might find this article from Las Vegas could change her mind. Not to mention preventing premature wrinkling of skin even without the cancer risk.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/apr/23/savvy-desert-dwellers-guide-to-sun-protection/

Again, the perspective is from living and working in the desert, not passing through on vacation in shorts, tank tops, flip flops and no hat (but the tourists should heed it as well). Keep in mind when reading this, almost all of Big Bend is at a higher elevation than Las Vegas and thus more susceptible to UV radiation due to thinner air.

For a photo tour of skin issues you'd rather avoid from sun exposure, check out

http://www.onhealth.com/content/1/sun_damaged_skin
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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2017, 02:10:13 AM »
Sun exposure is only one good reason to cover up.  Every plant int he desert has thorns and possesses an angry disposition toward exposed skin!

Indeed, and that is why I hike wearing leather gloves.
Total agreement: gloves are on my list every single time.

You fellas need to either walk more deliberately or learn to take a few hits.  I only have carried gloves when I expect some sharp rock scrambling or rappelling.  Maybe if I knew I was going to try to force my way up some catclaw filled wash, which I avoid like the plague.  But then I don't mind a few encounters with some thorns.



Even gloves do not keep you from taking all the hits.  My clothes are always dotted with blood.
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself and to be amazed.

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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2017, 12:44:32 PM »
There are some members of this board (who shall remain nameless) that don't even need clothes when they go out in Big Bend.
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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 01:40:42 PM »
There are some members of this board (who shall remain nameless) that don't even need clothes when they go out in Big Bend.

"Burning Man" takes on a whole new meaning.
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Re: Interesting discussion on clothing for the desert
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2017, 01:48:25 PM »
There are some members of this board (who shall remain nameless) that don't even need clothes when they go out in Big Bend.

Colin Fletcher said he "Walked Through Time" at the Grand Canyon sans clothes. 
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself and to be amazed.

 


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