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New solar chargers from Energizer

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2009, 11:08:25 AM »
...I suspect most users would be frustrated at the relatively low performance. ...

kind of a half-empty guy aren't you?

Oh yeah, this is the best thing since sliced bread. You won't even need a generator for your camper if you get one of these. I bought two so I can power my house  :rolling:; one for all the lights and the other for the refrigerator.

Call it what you want, but the physics of solar charger efficiencies absolutely will disappoint a lot of folks who are expecting something that produces real power.

Market hype does not change the facts of usage. If you understand that and can work within the considerable limitations, then it will perform nicely. However, most consumers have little experience with solar charging and thus will be disappointed in the seeming lack of performance.

While being correct, you seem to have missed the point. Perhaps if you think about the topic of discussion in terms of backpackers...light weight, very little power demand and ease of use. No one here is thinking panacea. We're just looking for something that might work as well as carrying extra AAs. No need to respond with a dissertation.

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2009, 11:44:09 AM »
Call it what you want, but the physics of solar charger efficiencies absolutely will disappoint a lot of folks who are expecting something that produces real power.

Market hype does not change the facts of usage. If you understand that and can work within the considerable limitations, then it will perform nicely. However, most consumers have little experience with solar charging and thus will be disappointed in the seeming lack of performance.

Perhaps if you think about the topic of discussion in terms of backpackers...light weight, very little power demand and ease of use. No one here is thinking panacea. We're just looking for something that might work as well as carrying extra AAs.

I agree with Ay Chi that the context here is backpacking, and that's why I posted it, and have some excitement about it. But I also agree with presidio in that this product will doubtlessly disappoint a lot of people who will expect it to work like plugging it into a wall. I suspect a lot of people won't be able to use it correctly (such as placing the charger so that their head and Tilley hat are directly between it and the sun), and they will assume the device doesn't work.

Having read other backpacking boards, there is definitely a niche market for an affordable, lightweight, and reasonably reliable source of minimal power on the trail. So I hope this announcement is the beginning of a new generation of such devices. Mass-market prices require a mass market of demand. But if it doesn't perform well for a broad audience, then we'll be back with the expensive, niche makers of solar chargers we have today.

Anyway, if anyone gets one of these, I'm sure we'd all appreciate hearing your experience, especially whether it delivers enough for trail use.
Jeff Blaylock
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splendor and the complicated grandeur of Big Bend will still be here. Waiting for us."--Ed Abbey

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2009, 12:57:15 PM »
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Anyway, if anyone gets one of these, I'm sure we'd all appreciate hearing your experience, especially whether it delivers enough for trail use.

I was hoping it might be you.  :icon_wink:

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2009, 01:45:27 PM »
Since I use solar power here in the Castle, I can relate my experience on one important factor. With bright clear overhead sun and not any dust or shade, my panel puts out 4.8 amp.  With a little dust it drops to 4.2 amp.  The panel is about 24" x 48" and a tree limb shadow 3" wide diagonally across the panel knocks it down to the 2.9 amp range.  So when you are hiking or resting it will be extremely important to keep the shadows off the panel and keep it pointed as square to the sun as possible.  PV panels lose a major portion of their abilities with just a hint of things not being perfect.  I would think that during hiking getting close to 50% of stated power output was be a miracle. Also as they get hotter than 75 the output drops quickly. That is my experience and opinions.

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2009, 11:03:48 PM »
If it's power while backpacking you need, maybe it's time for an iTent



Tent Leeches Solar Power While Campers Leech Your Wi-Fi
By Mark Wilson, 1:40 PM on Tue Jun 23 2009

Even if this tent were just a tent, it's fashionable enough to seriously covet. But because it's a concept with ubertech, the tent produces enough electricity to power a small town and connects to the internet wirelessly.

Telecommunication firm Orange's latest eco tent concept (by design company Kaleidoscope) exploits photovoltaic fabric to produce energy without bulky, inflexible solar panels. This power feeds gadgets that are stored in a magnetic induction pouch, and also drives a flexible LCD screen with wireless internet.

The connectivity extends beyond the tent itself, however, as SMS or RFID can be deployed at any time to light up the tent, identifying your campsite (potentially, from afar). We're also guessing that the tent would obnoxiously pulsate any time you got a call to the rhythm of your ringer (Orange, feel free to use that idea, on us).
« Last Edit: June 26, 2009, 11:06:31 PM by RichardM »

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2009, 01:14:01 AM »
From the i-tent webpage:
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Yes, it's a stupid concept that's totally foreign to the idea of wilderness retreat, but hey, at least it's gloriously stupid - stupid enough that I think I really want one
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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2009, 10:59:05 AM »
If it's power while backpacking you need, maybe it's time for an iTent

Because there isn't enough theft in the wilderness and we want to do something about it!

Now you not only need to worry about your digital camera, iPhone, iPod, computer with wireless, and other expensive camping gear being stolen out of your tent, but you can worry about your tent itself being stolen.

Might I suggest an upgrade feature of having an alarm on the tent? The light can flash and the horn honk when anyone gets too close. You can even have an audio recording play. "Step away from the tent. Step away from the tent."

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2009, 10:17:38 PM »
Might I suggest an upgrade feature of having an alarm on the tent? The light can flash and the horn honk when anyone gets too close. You can even have an audio recording play. "Step away from the tent. Step away from the tent."

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 Beeatrice,behaaaave :eusa_naughty:.....while we are at it. Might i recommend a Sentry, from the National Guard to walk all night long around your tent....with jingle bells and dog tags?.... :eusa_eh:
Stay thirsty, my friends.

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2009, 10:22:17 PM »
Might I suggest an upgrade feature of having an alarm on the tent? The light can flash and the horn honk when anyone gets too close. You can even have an audio recording play. "Step away from the tent. Step away from the tent."

:icon_lol:

 Beeatrice,behaaaave :eusa_naughty:.....while we are at it. Might i recommend a Sentry, from the National Guard to walk all night long around your tent....with jingle bells and dog tags?.... :eusa_eh:
LOL! I think the tent is pretty cool. But a 24/7 sentry--doesn't that defeat the purpose of leaving civilization behind?  :icon_biggrin: (The winky icon looks a little sarcastic instead of playful, so I'll use the bug grin.)

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2009, 09:31:42 AM »
I think this is great technology for perhaps researchers/scientists to have, but for the average backpacker....pahle eeeze. Why not just stay home, surf the net and text nonsense all day? :loser:

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2009, 01:12:07 PM »
Seriously speaking.... :eusa_think:. It is good to see that some has finally step forward and offered something to try. None the less,knowing perfectly that you are buying something still in it's infancy,technology wise it is a nice step in the right direction towards where the future of camping is headed.

 To me, the giant leaps will be taken when we see inverse cooling technology, where the hotter outside it gets the cooler it will be inside of a special tent..probably somebody has already thought of this and further down the road we will see a project being presented...much like the Fremen Suit.
Stay thirsty, my friends.

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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2009, 01:11:12 PM »
Energizer is making this solar charger potentially more appealing to my inner gear geek. It's releasing a series of charger clips which attach to proprietary camera batteries and recharge them using a USB port, such as the one on the solar charger.

Jeff Blaylock
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Re: New solar chargers from Energizer
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2009, 02:56:42 PM »
Cute tent, 300 plus pounds including all the theft prone items. I pack lite when backpacking even though my name is not badknees, mine are. I can always use the nano weight credit card at the HOTEL. :rolling: :rolling:
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