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Title: Props to REI
Post by: dprather on January 26, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
Late last June (June 28, 2017) I was fitted for a pack purchase by an REI store.  At the recommendation of the fitter, and because the pack felt good in the store, I purchased a large/long Gregory Baltoro 65 (even though I am only 5'9 on my best day),  Taking the pack on the trail for the first time in December, I found the pack to be too long.  There was absolutely no adjustment that would keep the lumbar support up above my bottom.  I contacted REI, and no problem - they will replace an undamaged pack within one year of purchase.   

REI made a life-time fan, and they deserve any good PR this story gives them.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: BlindWilly on January 26, 2018, 01:32:44 PM
I went in a couple of years ago to update some of my camping gear.  They've been nothing but outstanding since then.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: Hang10er on January 26, 2018, 03:04:40 PM
Boo on REI because the closest one is 167 miles away.

Good story though.  I think the best advertisement is word of mouth.  I like gadgets and recently found a device called a "Hero Clip".  It's basically a fancy carabiner with a swivel.  Google hero clip and you'll see it. Cops are gadget loving people, but like teachers, underpaid.  So I contacted the company and offered to spread the word about the clips and in exchange they gave me a "link" to get a discount. I shared it with our SWAT team.  If anyone is interested, message me and I'll give you the link.  I don't work for the company.

Moderator - if this is not allowed, feel free to remove.

Moderator Note: Ok by me. I'll even say everyone from having to Google it:
https://myheroclip.com/products/heroclip
Title: Props to REI
Post by: House Made of Dawn on January 27, 2018, 12:19:03 AM
+1 on the REI endorsement.

I've been a co-op member for almost 30 years. During that time, I've returned a ton of gear. Some because it didn't fit, some because it failed, and some because I just didn't like it. Not once have I received any significant push-back. They've taken back old kids' clothes that didn't fit, water filters that clogged, climbing helmets that chafed my forehead, duplicate rain gear after I decided which version I liked best, old worn boots that leaked in the snow, and - most impressively - a four-year-old REI Flash 65 backpack, the hipbelt and packbag of which blew out after I humped 80+ pounds into the Chisos on a family trip where I played Hero Dad, carrying all the water (6 gallons) and most of the food. Occasionally REI will pro-rate the value of the old gear, reducing the refund, but I have no complaints.

I'm not a big fan of REI-brand gear, but I'm deeply grateful for the presence of an REI in my neighborhood in Dallas. I miss the old, larger store in North Dallas, where I could find almost anything, anytime....but that doesn't stop me from being a loyal customer. I've bought a small fortune in gear from REI and i expect to continue the trend.  REI is still the HQ for outdoor recreation.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: mule ears on January 27, 2018, 06:04:24 AM
Became a member in 1970, when there was one store in Seattle and it was all mail order (unless you lived near the store).  I will say that a few years ago they tightened up their return policies because folks were really abusing them but they are still pretty liberal.  These days I mostly buy socks, fuel canisters, water bottles and such.

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We stand behind everything we sell. If you're not satisfied with your REI purchase, you can return it for a replacement or refund within one year of purchase, except for outdoor electronics, which must be returned within 90 days of purchase. Outdoor electronics include activity monitors, GPS-enabled devices, bike trainers, emergency-communication devices, and cameras.

REIís guarantee doesnít cover ordinary wear and tear or damage caused by improper use or accidents.

If your item has a manufacturing defect in its materials or workmanship, you can return it at any time.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: GaryF on January 27, 2018, 08:18:13 AM
I canít match Mule Ears,  but Iíve been an REI member since sometime in the 1980ís, never a complaint. 

They put in a store about 5 miles from us a few years ago, and I wander through every couple of months. They also have an in store bike shop, and just this week a good friend went there asking for help removing a stuck bottom bracket.  It only took them a minute, and they did it for free, where my friends regular bike shop was going to charge a $50 shop fee.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: Jalco on January 27, 2018, 08:44:22 AM
I have one in my hometown (Round Rock) and another just down the road in Austin.  A long time member as well, I still have my paper card, which never fails to elicit a response whenever I pull it out of my wallet.  Father's Day last year was very profitable for them..... :dance:
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: House Made of Dawn on January 27, 2018, 09:18:02 AM
I still have my paper card, which never fails to elicit a response whenever I pull it out of my wallet. 

 :icon_lol:  :great:
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: presidio on January 27, 2018, 12:33:28 PM
I still have my paper card, which never fails to elicit a response whenever I pull it out of my wallet. 

Don't have my paper card any longer, but get a similar reaction when I rattle off my 6-digit number.

Okay, without giving away too much information, who has the lowest REI number?

Mine is 27****
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: Jalco on January 27, 2018, 03:14:10 PM

Don't have my paper card any longer, but get a similar reaction when I rattle off my 6-digit number.

Okay, without giving away too much information, who has the lowest REI number?

Mine's a 7-digit number, so I'm already out of the game.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: mule ears on January 27, 2018, 04:29:20 PM
I still have my paper card, which never fails to elicit a response whenever I pull it out of my wallet. 

Don't have my paper card any longer, but get a similar reaction when I rattle off my 6-digit number.

Okay, without giving away too much information, who has the lowest REI number?

Mine is 27****

presidio, I knew you were crusty but you must also be old and crusty.  I say that with the greatest respect.

My 6 digit number starts with 30****.  I think the numbers may even go to 8 digits now and yes they recoil when I pull out my paper card with such a low number.  I keep it right next to my Eagle Scout card but that is yet another discussion.    :)
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: House Made of Dawn on January 27, 2018, 04:31:57 PM
I still have my paper card, which never fails to elicit a response whenever I pull it out of my wallet. 

Don't have my paper card any longer, but get a similar reaction when I rattle off my 6-digit number.

Okay, without giving away too much information, who has the lowest REI number?

Mine is 27****

presidio, I knew you were crusty but you must also be old and crusty.  I say that with the greatest respect.

My 6 digit number starts with 30****.  I think the numbers may even go to 8 digits now and yes they recoil when I pull out my paper card with such a low number.  I keep it right next to my Eagle Scout card but that is yet another discussion.    :)

 :notworthy:  Off the top of my head, I don't know my number, but it's nowhere near as low as you guys. Respect.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: nuggetf5 on January 27, 2018, 09:32:17 PM
Ditto, on their service. Lucky to have one in Kansas City and it's maybe a 40 minute drive. I've returned a few things worn once or twice and never a hesitation. Probably a good decision as much as I spend.

As a rule I'm not crazy about some of the REI brand gear but their current line of medium and heavy wool hiking socks are the bomb. I wear them even when I'm not hiking and they're super comfortable. Best socks I've ever hiked in.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: House Made of Dawn on January 27, 2018, 10:07:08 PM

As a rule I'm not crazy about some of the REI brand gear but their current line of medium and heavy wool hiking socks are the bomb. I wear them even when I'm not hiking and they're super comfortable. Best socks I've ever hiked in.

Thatís good to know. Iím going to have to check those out. Thanks, nuggetf5.



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Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: presidio on January 27, 2018, 11:02:47 PM
I still have my paper card, which never fails to elicit a response whenever I pull it out of my wallet. 

Don't have my paper card any longer, but get a similar reaction when I rattle off my 6-digit number.

Okay, without giving away too much information, who has the lowest REI number?

Mine is 27****

presidio, I knew you were crusty but you must also be old and crusty.  I say that with the greatest respect.

You might be surprised at the old part  :dance:

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My 6 digit number starts with 30****.  I think the numbers may even go to 8 digits now and yes they recoil when I pull out my paper card with such a low number.  I keep it right next to my Eagle Scout card but that is yet another discussion.    :)

Might be  7 digits, might be 8. The REI 2016 Stewardship report says there are 16 million members; however, their 2016 financial statement says 6.3 million "voting eligible" members.

I got mine in 1971 or 1972. The outdoor environmental/backpacker movement was beginning to crest then, and the numbers went up pretty quickly in a short period. A blog where folks were crowing about their numbers had one guy with 311565 who said he got it in the early 70s.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: mule ears on January 28, 2018, 06:25:06 AM
I still have my paper card, which never fails to elicit a response whenever I pull it out of my wallet. 

Don't have my paper card any longer, but get a similar reaction when I rattle off my 6-digit number.

Okay, without giving away too much information, who has the lowest REI number?

Mine is 27****

presidio, I knew you were crusty but you must also be old and crusty.  I say that with the greatest respect.

You might be surprised at the old part  :dance:

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My 6 digit number starts with 30****.  I think the numbers may even go to 8 digits now and yes they recoil when I pull out my paper card with such a low number.  I keep it right next to my Eagle Scout card but that is yet another discussion.    :)

Might be  7 digits, might be 8. The REI 2016 Stewardship report says there are 16 million members; however, their 2016 financial statement says 6.3 million "voting eligible" members.

I got mine in 1971 or 1972. The outdoor environmental/backpacker movement was beginning to crest then, and the numbers went up pretty quickly in a short period. A blog where folks were crowing about their numbers had one guy with 311565 who said he got it in the early 70s.

Interesting that your number is lower than mine when I got mine in 1970 (I was 13 going on 14), maybe they recycle numbers like Delaware recycles license plate numbers.   :eusa_think:

Now my paper card is not the original as it has my current address which wasn't even assigned until the mid 80's (it was a Rural Route Box number before that) but I don't think they gave me a new number.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: GaryF on January 28, 2018, 11:10:10 AM
My only gripe, and itís not REIís fault really, is that we have lost our smaller local shops that were a little more focused on backpacking and climbing. Some of you guys in Texas are probably familiar with Backwoods. In the KC area it was my go to store from the late 1970ís.  REI opened just a few blocks away, and then a huge Sheels store opened just across the parking lot from Backwoods. Between that, and the cheaper online competition, the local  Backwoods just couldnít compete, and they closed their doors 2-3 years ago.

I looked it up, I joined REI in 1987, member numbers were up to 1,9xx,xxx by then.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: BlindWilly on January 29, 2018, 12:48:37 PM
I found the best camping chair I've ever used there.
It's big, holds 400lbs and it's comfy!
https://www.rei.com/product/847137/rei-co-op-camp-xtra-chair
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: dprather on January 29, 2018, 10:10:58 PM
I completed the exchange today at the NW Houston REI.  They guy at the counter interrupted me as I began to explain why I wanted to return the pack.  He kindly i said, "It doesn't matter.  The pack isn't damaged.  You are well withing the time rams."  That was it.

A new mid-sized Baltoro is on its way.

Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: nuggetf5 on January 30, 2018, 08:07:13 AM
My only gripe, and itís not REIís fault really, is that we have lost our smaller local shops that were a little more focused on backpacking and climbing. Some of you guys in Texas are probably familiar with Backwoods. In the KC area it was my go to store from the late 1970ís.  REI opened just a few blocks away, and then a huge Sheels store opened just across the parking lot from Backwoods. Between that, and the cheaper online competition, the local  Backwoods just couldnít compete, and they closed their doors 2-3 years ago.

I looked it up, I joined REI in 1987, member numbers were up to 1,9xx,xxx by then.

Backwoods used to get my money in KC. Then (my opinion) they sold out and moved to south Johnson County into la-la land. I have to question how many outdoor people actually live in that area unless you count folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. OK that was snarky :). I loved the old store on Broadway but the new one left me cold and after a few trips and them totally ignoring customers you could tell they wouldn't be for long. I'd guess their lease/rent was 4-6 times the old location which I loved.

If you shopped there you might be familiar with Sunflower Outdoor and Bike in Lawrence. They're going strong, still my main source for gear. Great shop.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: dprather on January 30, 2018, 08:38:45 AM
My only gripe, and itís not REIís fault really, is that we have lost our smaller local shops that were a little more focused on backpacking and climbing. Some of you guys in Texas are probably familiar with Backwoods. In the KC area it was my go to store from the late 1970ís.  REI opened just a few blocks away, and then a huge Sheels store opened just across the parking lot from Backwoods. Between that, and the cheaper online competition, the local  Backwoods just couldnít compete, and they closed their doors 2-3 years ago.

I looked it up, I joined REI in 1987, member numbers were up to 1,9xx,xxx by then.

Backwoods used to get my money in KC. Then (my opinion) they sold out and moved to south Johnson County into la-la land. I have to question how many outdoor people actually live in that area unless you count folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. OK that was snarky :). I loved the old store on Broadway but the new one left me cold and after a few trips and them totally ignoring customers you could tell they wouldn't be for long. I'd guess their lease/rent was 4-6 times the old location which I loved.

If you shopped there you might be familiar with Sunflower Outdoor and Bike in Lawrence. They're going strong, still my main source for gear. Great shop.

"folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Food" Nugget, you are my kind of guy!
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: mule ears on January 30, 2018, 02:07:36 PM
My only gripe, and itís not REIís fault really, is that we have lost our smaller local shops that were a little more focused on backpacking and climbing. Some of you guys in Texas are probably familiar with Backwoods. In the KC area it was my go to store from the late 1970ís.  REI opened just a few blocks away, and then a huge Sheels store opened just across the parking lot from Backwoods. Between that, and the cheaper online competition, the local  Backwoods just couldnít compete, and they closed their doors 2-3 years ago.

I looked it up, I joined REI in 1987, member numbers were up to 1,9xx,xxx by then.

Backwoods used to get my money in KC. Then (my opinion) they sold out and moved to south Johnson County into la-la land. I have to question how many outdoor people actually live in that area unless you count folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. OK that was snarky :). I loved the old store on Broadway but the new one left me cold and after a few trips and them totally ignoring customers you could tell they wouldn't be for long. I'd guess their lease/rent was 4-6 times the old location which I loved.

If you shopped there you might be familiar with Sunflower Outdoor and Bike in Lawrence. They're going strong, still my main source for gear. Great shop.

"folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Food" Nugget, you are my kind of guy!
The unfortunate truth of the Outdoor Industry is it is all about clothing sales not hard goods both in amount sold and the profit margin.  So all those Trader Joe's folks need to look good and healthy too.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: Hang10er on January 30, 2018, 02:51:28 PM
Enjoying reading all the REI and my "locally owned" store talk.

In my opinion it's a Catch 22.  You gotta' love supporting a mom and pops shop owned by people who use the products or participate in what they sale.  Feels good to put money in their pocket.  They usually have the most knowledgeable employees too.  People that also know the sport/equipment. 

However, being a long ways from rich, I do like to compare prices - hitting the large box stores or on-line shopping.  And if you think about it, on-line shopping has actually allowed some mom and pops to not only survive to but grow!   

Patagonia?  North Face?  Good looking stuff.  All those people who wear it to show off the brand do the rest of us a lot of good though.  Those high profit margins put money back into the machine and I figure some of that goes into R&D and new innovative products making things better for those that hit the backcountry. 

I don't own a YETI...still trying to win one somewhere as a door prize.  However, I did splurge on a RTIC (same thing really) and I thank YETI and all those people who made them so popular and allowed copy companies to make cheaper versions.  Love the savings on ice when I'm car camping.

Commerce has benefitted us tremendously.  Look at the advancements in the last few decades; water purification devices, the thinness of our clothing layers, the lightness of our packs and tents, the navigating ability of our GPS instruments, weather prediction, and countless gadgets and gizmos. 
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: PacingTheCage on January 30, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
I used to live close to the Round Rock store and my wife would cringe when I told her I was going to REI.  I can almost see the downtown location from my office so I get my REI fix there now.  It's only 3 miles from our new home too.

I bought a REI quarter dome tent about 7 or 8 years ago.  The year before they changed the return policy I had issues witht he strap hooks that the rain fly attaches too.  Several had come unglued.  Not a big deal.  I stopped by the store, not to return the item, but to ask if they had a repair kit.  This was at the Round Rock store.  The guy took a look at the tent and said, "Yeah we can fix that.  I'll be right back."  A few minutes later he gives me a new tent!  I tell him I can't accept that and to just give me a repair kit.  He says, "This is the repair kit" and tossed it to me!

Had a pair of REI hiking boots too.  They lasted for years and finally the sole started separating and no way to fix that.  They were very comfortable boots too.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: presidio on January 30, 2018, 05:24:07 PM
Commerce has benefitted us tremendously.  Look at the advancements in the last few decades; water purification devices, the thinness of our clothing layers, the lightness of our packs and tents, the navigating ability of our GPS instruments, weather prediction, and countless gadgets and gizmos.

YES!!!

It's all about innovation in equipment.   :notworthy:

It's given us KNIVES!!!!  :dance:
(https://i.imgur.com/NeNkajC.jpg)

And, especially, watches!!!  :dance:
(https://i.imgur.com/vvRGnQL.jpg)

Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: GaryF on January 30, 2018, 08:49:25 PM
I loved the old store on Broadway but the new one left me cold and after a few trips and them totally ignoring customers you could tell they wouldn't be for long. I'd guess their lease/rent was 4-6 times the old location which I loved.

If you shopped there you might be familiar with Sunflower Outdoor and Bike in Lawrence. They're going strong, still my main source for gear. Great shop.

I grew up in midtown, my early stops in Backwoods were usually side trips walking home from high school. Mostly those were look and dream trips as I didnít have a lot of money, but one day I walked home with brand new Alpenlite frame pack, my first backpack. I generally agree on the move to Johnson County not being great, but midtown had become a tough market, too. 

Itís been awhile since Iíve been out to Sunflower, but itís a great shop thatís been around forever. The owner Dan has a good head for the outdoor business.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: dprather on January 30, 2018, 10:12:21 PM
Commerce has benefitted us tremendously.  Look at the advancements in the last few decades; water purification devices, the thinness of our clothing layers, the lightness of our packs and tents, the navigating ability of our GPS instruments, weather prediction, and countless gadgets and gizmos.

YES!!!

It's all about innovation in equipment.   :notworthy:

It's given us KNIVES!!!!  :dance:
(https://i.imgur.com/NeNkajC.jpg)

And, especially, watches!!!  :dance:
(https://i.imgur.com/vvRGnQL.jpg)

Shades of Maxwell Smart
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: horns93 on January 31, 2018, 11:01:23 AM
" I have to question how many outdoor people actually live in that area unless you count folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. OK that was snarky :). "

LOL. This is an entire demographic in Austin, TX.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: PacingTheCage on January 31, 2018, 11:06:13 AM
" I have to question how many outdoor people actually live in that area unless you count folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. OK that was snarky :). "

LOL. This is an entire demographic in Austin, TX.  :icon_lol:

Truth!  You should see my "hipster" neighborhood.  When I'm out walking I always have my backpack on.  People have offered me money, food coupons, etc. thinking I'm a homeless person.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: RichardM on January 31, 2018, 11:31:36 AM
" I have to question how many outdoor people actually live in that area unless you count folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. OK that was snarky :). "

LOL. This is an entire demographic in Austin, TX.  :icon_lol:
You misspelled Patagucci.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: dprather on January 31, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
" I have to question how many outdoor people actually live in that area unless you count folks that require Patagonia and North Face gear to shop at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. OK that was snarky :). "

LOL. This is an entire demographic in Austin, TX.  :icon_lol:

Truth!  You should see my "hipster" neighborhood.  When I'm out walking I always have my backpack on.  People have offered me money, food coupons, etc. thinking I'm a homeless person.  :icon_lol:

If this is true, then you should make it work for you!
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: BlindWilly on January 31, 2018, 03:17:35 PM
That reminds me, I have a $50 Xmas gift card I need to spend.
I need to improve my camp kitchen set up.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: nuggetf5 on January 31, 2018, 05:29:26 PM
I loved the old store on Broadway but the new one left me cold and after a few trips and them totally ignoring customers you could tell they wouldn't be for long. I'd guess their lease/rent was 4-6 times the old location which I loved.

If you shopped there you might be familiar with Sunflower Outdoor and Bike in Lawrence. They're going strong, still my main source for gear. Great shop.

I grew up in midtown, my early stops in Backwoods were usually side trips walking home from high school. Mostly those were look and dream trips as I didnít have a lot of money, but one day I walked home with brand new Alpenlite frame pack, my first backpack. I generally agree on the move to Johnson County not being great, but midtown had become a tough market, too. 

Itís been awhile since Iíve been out to Sunflower, but itís a great shop thatís been around forever. The owner Dan has a good head for the outdoor business.

Midtown KCMO has always been a dicey area and it hasn't changed much since I've been around the city in the early 80s. You're correct, and I get why they moved but it ended up killing them and that was a shame. There's a store called Moosejaw on the Plaza that sells Patagonia, North Face, Marmot, etc. but it's a very small boutique store and I think most of the gear leaving there never sees a park or trail. Lets face it, some of that stuff is just pretty nice. I mean I sit around in long and short-sleeve Ibex wool t-shirts doing web development all day and I'm rarely not wearing wool REI socks. Disclaimer: I *did* do a 10 mile hike this afternoon.

But yea, that first time you see some burb mom popping out of a Jeep Hummer at the mall wearing LL Bean Boots, Patagonia fleece holding a Starbucks in one hand and a Coach purse in the other is jarring.

Dan is a great guy at Sunflower. Monster off-road biker and the crew at Sunflower is really knowledgeable. Best bike geeks in the region I think, and they have a far better backpack selection than REI, lots of other good hiking stuff too.

Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: House Made of Dawn on February 01, 2018, 02:17:26 PM
Backwoods was a great outfit. If you've read my recent contributions to the Hiking Boots thread, you know I bought my very first pair of "real" hiking boots at the Backwoods store near my then-home in Fort Worth, Texas.

When I bought those boots in 1978 (from the old Backwoods store on Camp Bowie in Fort Worth, Texas), I went in specifically looking for heavy-duty Norwegian-welted mountaineering boots. I'd read a number of articles in Backpacker Magazine detailing the differences in welting methods and I knew what I wanted.  Backwoods was a good store with good staff and I quickly settled on the Montanas.

Backwoods began in 1973 in Wichita, Kansas, where my cousins lived, but they quickly branched out with stores throughout the south. The excellent staff at that Fort Worth store helped me buy my very first real pair of hiking boots (Vasque Montanas), my very first real sleeping bag (a North Face Blue Kazoo, IIRC, nope I think it was a Cat's Meow), my very first real backpack (a Kelty), and my very first real backpacking rain gear (a Helly Hansen cagoule). I can still remember the smell of that store. After returning from Europe in 1980, I relocated to Dallas and switched my patronage to Mountain Hideout and Whole Earth Provision Company, two more small, high-quality outfits which were both a lot closer to where I lived. I didn't start patronizing REI until they opened up a store in Dallas a few years later. When they did, they were like a giant mom-and-pop store. I soon got to know almost every employee in the backpacking and climbing departments. Sadly, that is no longer the case. REI is now mostly a clothing store. And Backwoods went bankrupt.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/article113904373.html



Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: Quatro on February 01, 2018, 09:27:28 PM
Backwoods was a great outfit. If you've read my recent contributions to the Hiking Boots thread, you know I bought my very first pair of "real" hiking boots at the Backwoods store near my then-home in Fort Worth, Texas.

+1.  I worked in 3 outdoor shops in Dallas in the mid-late 70s.  Backwoods was by far the best.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: austin gorpchomper on March 08, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
Looks like REI added a leading zero at some point; i joined in early 80s and it's 01489***
Same thing State of TExas did when they added a leading zero to my DL #.

One thing i like about modern REI is their ship-to-store functionality.

Also, no way will i put Patagonia in a group with TNF. TNF has been bought and my last few products from them (bought at bargain basement prices) have seemed substandard. Patagonia OTOH has made the sturdiest longest lasting functional gear I've ever owned bar none. The cold weather gear i bought in the mid 1980s still works, just somehow the dimensions shrank over the past 30 years.  :icon_wink:
 
Whole Earth in Austin *used* to be good if you got the right employee. I bought my early sleeping bags and Gregory Cassin pack at those stores in teh 80s. But they went a different direction about 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: badknees on March 08, 2018, 07:55:10 PM
REI quit selling all products supplied by Vista Outdoors

Stupid...

I'll buy my products elsewhere
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: dprather on March 08, 2018, 09:05:28 PM
REI quit selling all products supplied by Vista Outdoors

Stupid...

I'll buy my products elsewhere

They just couldn't help themelves
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: Jalco on March 08, 2018, 09:08:42 PM
REI quit selling all products supplied by Vista Outdoors

Stupid...

I'll buy my products elsewhere

https://www.outdoorlife.com/think-before-you-boycott-guns-public-land-and-vista-outdoor

Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: TexasAggieHiker on March 08, 2018, 10:31:15 PM
I wrote them to let them know I had read the press release and was disappointed in the decision to not carry Vista Outdoor products. Their response, a link to the press release I told them I had read. Theyíve lost my business. I love my rei brand products but Iím not going to give money to a company that pushes corparate fascism and doesnít want me as a customer.
Title: Re: Props to REI
Post by: House Made of Dawn on March 12, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
REI quit selling all products supplied by Vista Outdoors

Stupid...

I'll buy my products elsewhere

https://www.outdoorlife.com/think-before-you-boycott-guns-public-land-and-vista-outdoor

Thanks for the link, Jalco. Thatís a thoughtful and well-written article. Iím still an REI customer (got my rebate yesterday) though it is not quite the company it was when I first became a co-op member.


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