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Tarps: Square vs rectangle

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Offline mule ears

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Re: Tarps: Square vs rectangle
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2019, 07:59:37 PM »
Unrelated note from another thread: Using rocks as a hammer works well in big bend with only ''certain'' stakes, I would avoid any stake that has a lot of contact surface (like a Y-stake). I recommend the following stake for BIBE. That said, regardless of which stake you use, it should always be accompanied by a large rock on top of it.

Big rock Little rock is a good method for securing stuff down as well (just in case you break or forget a stake.....or two  :eusa_shhh:).

I still use a Y stake (ground hog) for the high tension guy lines (usually the ridge line) as they hold much better and you can actually pound them with a rock.  I only use wire stakes on the edges.  You can't pound the wire stakes in with a rock but they are handy in rocky ground as you can usually them to slip in between rocks in the soil.  Wire stakes do not hold as well as Y stakes unless down in rocky ground.

I also prefer tarps that allow you to use the pole with the handle up, don't like my handles on the ground, in the wet and I have had rodents chew the handle when down, trying to get the salt.
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Re: Tarps: Square vs rectangle
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2019, 08:26:52 PM »
Maybe it was just my location, but I absolutely decapitated my first MSR ground hog that I tried putting into the ground(Mesa de Anguila). The soil was pretty tough to say the least. Generally, I would agree with the wire stakes not taking a pounding, however the wire stake in the link above can take a beating all day long. It's because of the hooks actual angle. With the common wire stakes, such as Vargo, I would completely agree. The wire stakes held very well in the soil that I was in. I just about broke my back trying to get it out haha.... but seriously..... That said, the rocks are my real support.

I tend to like handles down, as I feel the actual hitch is more secure being at the base of the basket (less potential for movement IMO). That said, that's only if one digs a small hole to cup the handle and puts rocks down.


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Re: Tarps: Square vs rectangle
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2019, 01:57:55 PM »
Camped out last night. Pitched the tarp for practice, but cowboy camped.
Used the big rock little rock method, worked great. I was planning on buying a few msr ground hogs and/or those shepherd hooks to supplement my stock; but now I'm thinking I may not need to. From the videos I've seen, there's no shortage of rocks on the OML.
6 aluminum ystakes came with the tarp. I've already broken the heads off of 2, trying to get them out of the ground. They hold really good.



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