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Ten Commandments of Trail Safety

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Re: Ten Commandments of Trail Safety
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2017, 02:23:39 PM »
#27  Only do one stupid thing at a time.

I can only do one thing at a time anyway...

I've read before of the tumble-down effect of stupid things.  Backpackers can usually manage to undo one mistake.  But when the mistakes are compounded by other mistakes, then you are in trouble.  I suppose that the moral of the story is to stop and fix one problem so that it does not become the first mistake in a series of other problems. 
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Ten Commandments of Trail Safety
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2017, 02:44:56 PM »
#27  Only do one stupid thing at a time.

I can only do one thing at a time anyway...

I've read before of the tumble-down effect of stupid things.  Backpackers can usually manage to undo one mistake.  But when the mistakes are compounded by other mistakes, then you are in trouble.  I suppose that the moral of the story is to stop and fix one problem so that it does not become the first mistake in a series of other problems.

My wife says backpacking is stupid. That puts me in the hole from the get-go.
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Re: Ten Commandments of Trail Safety
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2017, 07:25:09 AM »
This is a great thread. I don't have enough experience to add a "thou shalt not", besides that, I've already accomplished a few that were listed  :shock:


Here's one that isn't listed (I don't think) - Pack shelter. In my case- don't take the extremely lightweight tent out of your pack to save weight. It will keep you alive if it rains and it's cold outside. Lucky for me it only spit a few drops. I think I'll take a tarp next time. Idk... I hate those little coffin tents. I suppose that they are better than a coffin though.  :shock: 

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Re: Ten Commandments of Trail Safety
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2017, 09:28:33 AM »
This is a great thread. I don't have enough experience to add a "thou shalt not", besides that, I've already accomplished a few that were listed  :shock:


Here's one that isn't listed (I don't think) - Pack shelter. In my case- don't take the extremely lightweight tent out of your pack to save weight. It will keep you alive if it rains and it's cold outside. Lucky for me it only spit a few drops. I think I'll take a tarp next time. Idk... I hate those little coffin tents. I suppose that they are better than a coffin though.  :shock:

iCe, totally agree about always carrying some sort of rain shelter. I, too, have gotten caught out in some unexpected and bad storms. Even a little shelter can make the difference between life and death.  For a couple years, I used an old Sierra Designs Light Year one-man tent that felt like a coffin, and before that I used various bivy bags that felt like converted body bags.

But for the last decade or more, my primary shelter has been a floorless Integral Designs Silshelter that weighs only 13oz, not counting stakes. 8 MSR Mini-Hog stakes at 0.35oz/each add not quite 3 more ounces, for a total kit weight of less than 16 ounces. It's actually quite large inside, with plenty of headroom to sit up straight. It's designed to rest on a single trekking pole in the center of shelter, but I use two poles, in  an inverted "V" configuration, with each pole extending downward from the peak along the interior walls. That gives me a great deal of interior space. I can set this thing up and take it down in less than 30-60 seconds if the staking substrate is cooperative. I don't use a stuffsack for the tent, I just shove it back into the rear mesh pocket of my Osprey Aether, where it can easily dry out.  After well over a decade of hard use in all sorts of environments, my Silshelter only has one tiny, easily fixed tear in it.

http://www.moontrail.com/integral-designs-silshelter.php

That's the good news. The bad news is that Integral Designs inexplicably discontinued the Silshelter a few years ago. However, Six Moons Designs also makes an ultralight floorless tent, the Deschutes, that looks to be the next best thing, or maybe even BETTER. It has several features that my Silshelter lacks: a zippered door, a skirt of bug-netting around the bottom that theoretically should keep flying insects out of the tent, and a peak vent to manage heat, humidity, and interior condensation.  The total kit looks to be 13oz, maybe even less. Looks like a winner for anyone looking for an ultralightweight shelter that can always be carried with you.

https://www.sixmoondesigns.com/products/deschutes
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Re: Ten Commandments of Trail Safety
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2017, 05:46:56 PM »
HMOD, thanks for that link.  The Deschutes looks tempting.

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Re: Ten Commandments of Trail Safety
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2017, 06:04:19 PM »
HMOD, thanks for that link.  The Deschutes looks tempting.

You're welcome, Jalco. Full disclosure: I've never used it. But it's probably what I'll buy if I ever have to replace my Silshelter. Frankly, it looks like a better piece of equipment.  I do know that Wrangler88 has a Six Moons Designs Gatewood Cape, which is essentially an even more stripped down version of the Deschutes that also functions as a rain poncho. He can give you more info on their products if your interested. For my money, their stuff looks exceptional.
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