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The Scoop on Pooping

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The Scoop on Pooping
« on: November 06, 2017, 10:58:47 PM »
Don't know if I'd put baby wipes up in the top ten, but I might want to add, "thou shalt not run out of toilet paper". Several years ago a buddy and I spent a week climbing in the Maroon  Bells-Snowmass Wilderness.  We split up at Snowmass Lake: he hiked over Buckskin Pass and out to Maroon Lake, then took the tourist bus back to Aspen and flew home to Dallas that evening; meanwhile I backpacked over the mountains toward Crested Butte where I had a meeting to attend in a few days. Later that evening while making camp I discovered my friend had accidentally taken the communal toilet kit with him, including ALL the toilet paper.  That made the next two days of hiking way more interesting than I'd hoped for.   :eusa_doh:

Serious question: do you think that a communal toilet kit is wise?
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 11:33:21 PM »
Don't know if I'd put baby wipes up in the top ten, but I might want to add, "thou shalt not run out of toilet paper". Several years ago a buddy and I spent a week climbing in the Maroon  Bells-Snowmass Wilderness.  We split up at Snowmass Lake: he hiked over Buckskin Pass and out to Maroon Lake, then took the tourist bus back to Aspen and flew home to Dallas that evening; meanwhile I backpacked over the mountains toward Crested Butte where I had a meeting to attend in a few days. Later that evening while making camp I discovered my friend had accidentally taken the communal toilet kit with him, including ALL the toilet paper.  That made the next two days of hiking way more interesting than I'd hoped for.   :eusa_doh:

Yep.  After running out of TP in the Wind Rivers during an early June trip, I can tell you that a snow ball formed a certain way can do the trick.  The first few days are a little rough, but after a week you get sorta used to it.  Not so used to it that you EVER run out again, but still....
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 01:31:53 AM »
Don't know if I'd put baby wipes up in the top ten, but I might want to add, "thou shalt not run out of toilet paper". Several years ago a buddy and I spent a week climbing in the Maroon  Bells-Snowmass Wilderness.  We split up at Snowmass Lake: he hiked over Buckskin Pass and out to Maroon Lake, then took the tourist bus back to Aspen and flew home to Dallas that evening; meanwhile I backpacked over the mountains toward Crested Butte where I had a meeting to attend in a few days. Later that evening while making camp I discovered my friend had accidentally taken the communal toilet kit with him, including ALL the toilet paper.  That made the next two days of hiking way more interesting than I'd hoped for.   :eusa_doh:

Yep.  After running out of TP in the Wind Rivers during an early June trip, I can tell you that a snow ball formed a certain way can do the trick.  The first few days are a little rough, but after a week you get sorta used to it.  Not so used to it that you EVER run out again, but still....

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Serious question: do you think that a communal toilet kit is wise?

Well, I did at the time. My friend was relatively new to backpacking and so I carried most of the big weight, plus he was going back to Aspen and Dallas after a week and I was going to continue backpacking across the high passes to Crested Butte, so it made sense for me to carry the tent and the cooking gear because I was going to have to carry it all by myself at some point anyway. I loaded my friend up with the food , the medical kit, and the toilet kit. When we went our separate ways, he remembered to give me everything but the toilet kit and I, stupidly, didn't double-check. I've never made that mistake again: I ALWAYS stash at least one small roll of TP somewhere in my pack, just in case.

But, I assume what you really mean is...is it hygienically wise? In all seriousness, I think sharing a single trowel, a single TP supply, and a single bottle of hand sanitizer between multiple people is just fine. Now, a single ziploc for storing dirty TP....well, yeah, that could be a little complicated and off-putting. But, you know, I've always done it. That may also be why I generally wind up hiking all by myself....   :icon_rolleyes:
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 03:00:36 AM »
Don't know if I'd put baby wipes up in the top ten, but I might want to add, "thou shalt not run out of toilet paper". Several years ago a buddy and I spent a week climbing in the Maroon  Bells-Snowmass Wilderness.  We split up at Snowmass Lake: he hiked over Buckskin Pass and out to Maroon Lake, then took the tourist bus back to Aspen and flew home to Dallas that evening; meanwhile I backpacked over the mountains toward Crested Butte where I had a meeting to attend in a few days. Later that evening while making camp I discovered my friend had accidentally taken the communal toilet kit with him, including ALL the toilet paper.  That made the next two days of hiking way more interesting than I'd hoped for.   :eusa_doh:

Yep.  After running out of TP in the Wind Rivers during an early June trip, I can tell you that a snow ball formed a certain way can do the trick.  The first few days are a little rough, but after a week you get sorta used to it.  Not so used to it that you EVER run out again, but still....

 :rolling:

Serious question: do you think that a communal toilet kit is wise?

Well, I did at the time. My friend was relatively new to backpacking and so I carried most of the big weight, plus he was going back to Aspen and Dallas after a week and I was going to continue backpacking across the high passes to Crested Butte, so it made sense for me to carry the tent and the cooking gear because I was going to have to carry it all by myself at some point anyway. I loaded my friend up with the food , the medical kit, and the toilet kit. When we went our separate ways, he remembered to give me everything but the toilet kit and I, stupidly, didn't double-check. I've never made that mistake again: I ALWAYS stash at least one small roll of TP somewhere in my pack, just in case.

But, I assume what you really mean is...is it hygienically wise? In all seriousness, I think sharing a single trowel, a single TP supply, and a single bottle of hand sanitizer between multiple people is just fine. Now, a single ziploc for storing dirty TP....well, yeah, that could be a little complicated and off-putting. But, you know, I've always done it. That may also be why I generally wind up hiking all by myself....   :icon_rolleyes:

There are just some things of such profound need that I have always though that I have should have my own of some things. 
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 08:31:50 AM »
I haven't used TP since my first year backpacking. It just takes up too much space and is unnecessary.

Good articles on the technique by Mike Clelland (whose book I highly recommend) and Andrew Skurka.
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2017, 11:39:03 AM »
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 11:57:21 AM »
I haven't used TP since my first year backpacking. It just takes up too much space and is unnecessary. I'll use natural objects (smooth rocks, pine cones, etc.) to do most of the cleaning, and for the final cleaning I'll use (1) water + one hand if there's a lot of water on the trail (2) a paper towel square or moist towelette if in a desert. In a desert especially this saves having to pack out the used TP.

Good articles on this by Mike Clelland (whose book I highly recommend) and Andrew Skurka.

Lord almighty, Shorty, you are hardcore. I'm impressed.
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2017, 12:01:02 PM »
There are just some things of such profound need that I have always though that I have should have my own of some things.

 :icon_lol: And there are some of us that have to learn that lesson the hard way.  :-[
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2017, 12:13:40 PM »
I haven't used TP since my first year backpacking. It just takes up too much space and is unnecessary. I'll use natural objects (smooth rocks, pine cones, etc.) to do most of the cleaning, and for the final cleaning I'll use (1) water + one hand if there's a lot of water on the trail (2) a paper towel square or moist towelette if in a desert. In a desert especially this saves having to pack out the used TP.

Good articles on this by Mike Clelland (whose book I highly recommend) and Andrew Skurka.


Whats the difference in packing out a poopy paper towel or moist towelette verses poopy TP?
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2017, 12:47:08 PM »
I am begging, pleading, for certain TMI to be transferred to its own thread.  For the life of me, though, I do not know where that other thread belongs :o
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2017, 01:13:04 PM »
I am begging, pleading, for certain TMI to be transferred to its own thread.  For the life of me, though, I do not know where that other thread belongs :o

 :icon_lol: Fair point. We need a "how to sh*t in the BiBe" thread.  Maybe it could be titled, "The Scoop on Pooping".  You laugh, but it's one of the more challenging backcountry skills, and failure to meet the challenge can be a very bad thing for all involved.


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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2017, 01:19:19 PM »
I am begging, pleading, for certain TMI to be transferred to its own thread.  For the life of me, though, I do not know where that other thread belongs :o

 :icon_lol: Fair point. We need a "how to sh*t in the BiBe" thread.  Maybe it could be titled, "The Scoop on Pooping".  You laugh, but it's one of the more challenging backcountry skills, and failure to meet the challenge can be a very bad thing for all involved.

There is a whole book called "How to Sh*t in the Woods" 3rd edition.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2017, 02:00:01 PM »
I am begging, pleading, for certain TMI to be transferred to its own thread.  For the life of me, though, I do not know where that other thread belongs :o

 :icon_lol: Fair point. We need a "how to sh*t in the BiBe" thread.  Maybe it could be titled, "The Scoop on Pooping".  You laugh, but it's one of the more challenging backcountry skills, and failure to meet the challenge can be a very bad thing for all involved.

There is a whole book called "How to Sh*t in the Woods" 3rd edition.

Hahaha, yes I used to own it.  Serious subject, funny delivery.  I highly recommend it.

Now that this thread exists (thanks, BBC!!!) and assuming that others may actually come here looking for real advice, I'm going to take this opportunity to recommend my absolute favorite toilet trowel. I used this last year on my two-week cross-park hike, as well as three or four other trips in the last twelve months. Best trowel ever. Weighs about 17 grams (a little over half an ounce)!  Practically indestructible, and if you do bend it, you can bend it right back into shape. Cuts through almost anything, dislodges huge rocks.  You can even use it as a tent stake, especially good in sand or snow. The Deuce of Spades.   

http://thetentlab.com/Deuce/DeuceofSpadespage.html

                     

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 03:04:29 PM »
When hiking the desert, a properly tapered, erosion smoothed limestone rock is very effective!!
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 03:06:07 PM »
When hiking the desert, a properly tapered, erosion smoothed limestone rock is very effective!!

Effective at what, BK?  As a trowel or a towel (so to speak)? Are we talking digging or wiping?  The way this thread is going, I can't tell.
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