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The Scoop on Pooping

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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2017, 05:38:41 PM »
What's next? Will I be able to buy a virtual sleeping bag, put on some virtual goggles, and visit anywhere I want to? Maybe hike the Appalachian Trail without ever leaving my house? Cook a meal on a camp stove but not really have the meal? Maybe even program a disaster and if it starts to go bad, end the program. It may have been necessary to have a Holodeck on the Enterprise but that wasn't real either. You can't fake fresh air, solitude, sweating, questioning your route, [/font]passing someone on a trail, and all of the other things that make the outdoor experience an experience. I want to believe that, collectively, people will see the so-called advances in technology for what they are and not participate... These kinds of things will disappear if they aren't used. The throw away society will toss it out.

The thing is all that virtual (un)reality will disappear once the power fails.  And then everyone wakes up from their stupor, "what do I do now?".  Technology is wonderful (we're having this fascinating conversation, from multiple locations, due to it), but it can't do everything.  A computer can't paint your house (though I suppose a machine with a computer could be programmed to do so), or plant a tree, or feed a baby.

Not sure what I'm really trying to say, but I agree with the idea that being outside - feeling heat/cold, hearing the wind/water, seeing color and movement - makes us feel alive.  As iCe posted, "you can't fake that".  My wife knows when I need an "outdoor fix" - even if it's just taking the dogs around the block - and knows I'm a more agreeable man when I get outside.

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« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2017, 06:08:06 PM »
What's next? Will I be able to buy a virtual sleeping bag, put on some virtual goggles, and visit anywhere I want to?

This is the wet dream of the funny hatters. Tourists stay home and they have the parks to themselves.

Only thing they haven't factored is that if we don't come, they have no reason to exist. Just as fees cause funding to dry up, when users disappear so does the need for a private playground.

Once you exclude the tourists and the funny hatters are no more, only Dewey will be left to do everything that needs doing in the places no one visits anymore.
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2017, 06:09:50 PM »
What's next? Will I be able to buy a virtual sleeping bag, put on some virtual goggles, and visit anywhere I want to?

This is the wet dream of the funny hatters. Tourists stay home and they have the parks to themselves.

Only thing they haven't factored is that if we don't come, they have no reason to exist. Just as fees cause funding to dry up, when users disappear so does the need for a private playground.

Once you exclude the tourists and the funny hatters are no more, only Dewey will be left to do everything that needs doing in the places no one visits anymore.

What happened to Huey and Louey? :willynilly:

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« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2017, 06:28:17 PM »
What's next? Will I be able to buy a virtual sleeping bag, put on some virtual goggles, and visit anywhere I want to?

This is the wet dream of the funny hatters. Tourists stay home and they have the parks to themselves.

Only thing they haven't factored is that if we don't come, they have no reason to exist. Just as fees cause funding to dry up, when users disappear so does the need for a private playground.

Once you exclude the tourists and the funny hatters are no more, only Dewey will be left to do everything that needs doing in the places no one visits anymore.

What happened to Huey and Louey? :willynilly:

Ah, that is for someone else to say. Let's just say it's a bit of a knowledge test (perhaps 'trivia' is a better word).
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2017, 08:13:48 PM »
"I find myself disliking almost every futurist I read or hear, but I also find myself thinking they may be right, more or less, in their predictions. Not a happy thought."

The futurists are all over the place.  For every glossy utopian hope there are as many dystopian horrors.  For every IMAGINed future of social harmony and technological advancement, there is a violent  ROAD WARRIOR and a dark BLADE RUNNER. 
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2017, 08:16:55 PM »
What's next? Will I be able to buy a virtual sleeping bag, put on some virtual goggles, and visit anywhere I want to?

This is the wet dream of the funny hatters. Tourists stay home and they have the parks to themselves.

Only thing they haven't factored is that if we don't come, they have no reason to exist. Just as fees cause funding to dry up, when users disappear so does the need for a private playground.

Once you exclude the tourists and the funny hatters are no more, only Dewey will be left to do everything that needs doing in the places no one visits anymore.

What happened to Huey and Louey? :willynilly:

Ah, that is for someone else to say. Let's just say it's a bit of a knowledge test (perhaps 'trivia' is a better word).

Big Bend Chat: cat holes, Carl Jung, and SILENT RUNNING (as I recall, this is our second thread to include references to SILENT RUNNING - that's gotta be a social media record).
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2017, 10:58:38 PM »
SILENT RUNNING (as I recall, this is our second thread to include references to SILENT RUNNING - that's gotta be a social media record).

 :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:

Those who've never seen Silent Running should do so. It holds up well as premier science fiction.

Check out the Andromeda Strain as well. The opening scenes of the village and surveillance fly over are at Shafter TX.

For something light: Fandango.
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2017, 09:09:59 AM »
What's next? Will I be able to buy a virtual sleeping bag, put on some virtual goggles, and visit anywhere I want to? Maybe hike the Appalachian Trail without ever leaving my house?


Hmmmm...well don't go here: http://www.virtualbigbend.com/
...it'll just ruin it for you.   :icon_lol:

Last time I had a rant like that, my wife said: "Here's a scoop, you're just an old POOP!"  Of course she was correct about me (standby a minute......"Hey! you kids get off my lawn...just go away!"
......Ok, I'm back) , but I suspect it's a more temporary situation for you iCe?  :eusa_think:


I like that site but I can't smell anything or hear the silence  :icon_smile:


My rant was the product of shock. I was and am still amazed with the negative impact of the internet and social media on the social nature of society. The internet is not a bit social in psychological terms. It's unsocial.

Back in my motorcycle riding days (VTX 1800) I was on a VTX forum and met many, many fellow riders. Not just on the board though. Not just bar hopping (never really go into that). We had an event in Denver every year. Over a 1,000 of us convened in the Rockies for a week, rode the twisties, saw the sites, broke bread, and enjoyed a beverage or two. Good times. My last long trip was to southern California. I rode out, met about 25 of my friends, and road back to the first Bike Week in Tombstone, AZ with them. One night we filled Big Nose Kate's saloon to standing room only (others had heard of the trip and rode in separately). When it was over, they headed west in the group and I headed east solo... except a few of my friends decided to tag along until El Paso. Just to be social  :eusa_clap: And they liked to ride. I remember one of guys said something to the effect of if you can ride all the way to CA just to ride with us the least we can do is ride to TX with you. That's being social...

The bike and I parted ways one day. Literally. It went toward a tree, I got off before it arrived at the tree and severely dislocated my shoulder. I rode pretty hard and had gone down in a curve a few years earlier, broke helmet, bent me a little but I was just sore, and a month later my bike was fixed and I rode it to Denver. I used that as a lesson and put a lot of focus on learning to ride the way I wanted to after that (loved the twisties back then) but this crash was at about 15 mph and would take too long to get into here. Kind of a fluke thing, and of course, a rider thing. I should've paid more attention to the condition of the road that we were on. A year later and a good bit of PT later I got back into photography, with bike insurance money :icon_lol: I got one of those new gee whiz digital cameras. I found the Texas Photo Forum, met tons of great people, travelled to all kinds of group events, averaged 80,000 - 90,000 photos a year, to put this on topic, most of those were sh*tty, and generally I had a great time, being social. The camera led me to landscape photography that's how how I found BiBe and this forum. Not a bad ricochet...

I like my neighbors :) I live on a hill, six miles from town east or west, 30+ miles from town north or south. The closest neighbor, that actually lives in their house, is about 1/4 mile away, their name is  :eusa_eh:  well.. I don't know what their name is. They may know mine but my mailbox only has my house number on it. I made the assumption that the carrier would know where they were and didn't bother putting the county road number on the box. Occasionally I will hear gunfire from semi-automatic weapons from the neighbors house, their neighbor, or maybe the neighbor next to them. I'm a "bolt gun" guy myself so it sounds like wasting bullets to me but I'm glad they are enjoying themselves. They have heard the report of my .338 (testing load velocity). Hopefully they appreciate that as much as I do their gunfire. They are all related to one another. About 1/3 live there full time and the rest come in from elsewhere (Houston?) on most weekends. One flies the stars and bars (the socially unacceptable one)  :icon_smile: with his Texas and US flag, properly lit. Other family members flags fly when they arrive and are taken down when they leave. We wave at one another, I've had one visit about a dog that wasn't mine. It was killing their chickens. Her husband wanted to kill it (Black Lab). We both agreed that he shouldn't do that. That's social... enough for me anyway...My postal delivery lady and I know each other by first name and have each others cellphone number, just in case she needs to drop a signature package or ask me to swing by the PO and pick something up because she's running late on her route. Again, social... I know the guy that owns the Handy Stop in town (everyone does) and talk to him like a we've known each other for years. Since I've been stopping at his store for years and he mans the counter most mornings, I'd have to say that we HAVE known each other for years. Just yesterday I turned him on to my soon-to-be son-in-laws side business. He does hog hunts. Night, thermal scope, suppressed AR hunts (he supplies the AR, scope, and suppressor if you don't have one), day hunts, day hunts with dogs, helicopter hunts ($500/hr), and once they get their Christmas present, night bow hunts. Imagine walking up on a big ole bore, in the (lit) dark, and sticking him with an arrow... ok so if you're a PETA member and hug mountain lions and bears for fun don't imagine that. <--- this is what is known as digressing... but it speaks to social interactions so I'll leave it The same women has cut my hair for 15 years or more. My quarterly visits to the hair salon are as much a social event as they are a necessity. Why go to a hair salon you might ask. (A) the gals that work there are smokin hot (I'm almost 60 and my vision is a bit blurry so bear in mind my version of smokin hot is skewed) and (B) women come in there to get themselves all prettied up (nails and whatnot). Where else are you going to find a high concentration of women with little to no competition (joking of course). Again, social...If I want whole milk, whole milk cheese, and fresh cream I drive down the road about 12 miles and visit Stryk's dairy. The local butcher will cut steaks as thick as I or anyone else wants them. Once a month there's a cattle auction just up the road. All of these things, in their own way, are social. Social media is not social. It's not even remotely associated with being social. It's isolationist and it's a detriment to society.

And my coffee cup is empty...  I think I'll run up to the Handy Stop and get some iced tea.
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2017, 09:47:52 AM »
Where else are you going to find a high concentration of women with little to no competition (joking of course).

Fabric stores, Hobby Lobby, Bed Bath and Beyond. (not joking  ;) )

Social media is not social. It's not even remotely associated with being social. It's isolationist and it's a detriment to society.
I must disagree, as this site is social media. It is admittedly more focused than say failbook, but despite the opinion of the NPS, it's no detriment to society.
 As for being isolationist....tha t's why many go to BiBe.
 However, we also have benders occasionally, so there's that....hmmm...we may be overdue for one? 
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2017, 10:02:01 AM »
Where else are you going to find a high concentration of women with little to no competition (joking of course).

Fabric stores, Hobby Lobby, Bed Bath and Beyond. (not joking  ;) )

Social media is not social. It's not even remotely associated with being social. It's isolationist and it's a detriment to society.
I must disagree, as this site is social media. It is admittedly more focused than say failbook, but despite the opinion of the NPS, it's no detriment to society.
 As for being isolationist....tha t's why many go to BiBe.
 However, we also have benders occasionally, so there's that....hmmm...we may be overdue for one?


I should have said - where else in small town America, etc. I'd have to drive a minimum of an hour to get those places, but you are correct!  :eusa_clap:


The devil is in the details- I see this as a forum. A gateway to meeting like minded people. Faceplace, Sputter (Twitter), texting, etc... that's what I call unsocial media although texting isn't completely horrible (I prefer CW over the air waves but that's just me).

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« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2017, 10:48:40 AM »
What's next? Will I be able to buy a virtual sleeping bag, put on some virtual goggles, and visit anywhere I want to? Maybe hike the Appalachian Trail without ever leaving my house?


Hmmmm...well don't go here: http://www.virtualbigbend.com/
...it'll just ruin it for you.   :icon_lol:

Last time I had a rant like that, my wife said: "Here's a scoop, you're just an old POOP!"  Of course she was correct about me (standby a minute......"Hey! you kids get off my lawn...just go away!"
......Ok, I'm back) , but I suspect it's a more temporary situation for you iCe?  :eusa_think:


I like that site but I can't smell anything or hear the silence  :icon_smile:


My rant was the product of shock. I was and am still amazed with the negative impact of the internet and social media on the social nature of society. The internet is not a bit social in psychological terms. It's unsocial.

Back in my motorcycle riding days (VTX 1800) I was on a VTX forum and met many, many fellow riders. Not just on the board though. Not just bar hopping (never really go into that). We had an event in Denver every year. Over a 1,000 of us convened in the Rockies for a week, rode the twisties, saw the sites, broke bread, and enjoyed a beverage or two. Good times. My last long trip was to southern California. I rode out, met about 25 of my friends, and road back to the first Bike Week in Tombstone, AZ with them. One night we filled Big Nose Kate's saloon to standing room only (others had heard of the trip and rode in separately). When it was over, they headed west in the group and I headed east solo... except a few of my friends decided to tag along until El Paso. Just to be social  :eusa_clap: And they liked to ride. I remember one of guys said something to the effect of if you can ride all the way to CA just to ride with us the least we can do is ride to TX with you. That's being social...

The bike and I parted ways one day. Literally. It went toward a tree, I got off before it arrived at the tree and severely dislocated my shoulder. I rode pretty hard and had gone down in a curve a few years earlier, broke helmet, bent me a little but I was just sore, and a month later my bike was fixed and I rode it to Denver. I used that as a lesson and put a lot of focus on learning to ride the way I wanted to after that (loved the twisties back then) but this crash was at about 15 mph and would take too long to get into here. Kind of a fluke thing, and of course, a rider thing. I should've paid more attention to the condition of the road that we were on. A year later and a good bit of PT later I got back into photography, with bike insurance money :icon_lol: I got one of those new gee whiz digital cameras. I found the Texas Photo Forum, met tons of great people, travelled to all kinds of group events, averaged 80,000 - 90,000 photos a year, to put this on topic, most of those were sh*tty, and generally I had a great time, being social. The camera led me to landscape photography that's how how I found BiBe and this forum. Not a bad ricochet...

I like my neighbors :) I live on a hill, six miles from town east or west, 30+ miles from town north or south. The closest neighbor, that actually lives in their house, is about 1/4 mile away, their name is  :eusa_eh:  well.. I don't know what their name is. They may know mine but my mailbox only has my house number on it. I made the assumption that the carrier would know where they were and didn't bother putting the county road number on the box. Occasionally I will hear gunfire from semi-automatic weapons from the neighbors house, their neighbor, or maybe the neighbor next to them. I'm a "bolt gun" guy myself so it sounds like wasting bullets to me but I'm glad they are enjoying themselves. They have heard the report of my .338 (testing load velocity). Hopefully they appreciate that as much as I do their gunfire. They are all related to one another. About 1/3 live there full time and the rest come in from elsewhere (Houston?) on most weekends. One flies the stars and bars (the socially unacceptable one)  :icon_smile: with his Texas and US flag, properly lit. Other family members flags fly when they arrive and are taken down when they leave. We wave at one another, I've had one visit about a dog that wasn't mine. It was killing their chickens. Her husband wanted to kill it (Black Lab). We both agreed that he shouldn't do that. That's social... enough for me anyway...My postal delivery lady and I know each other by first name and have each others cellphone number, just in case she needs to drop a signature package or ask me to swing by the PO and pick something up because she's running late on her route. Again, social... I know the guy that owns the Handy Stop in town (everyone does) and talk to him like a we've known each other for years. Since I've been stopping at his store for years and he mans the counter most mornings, I'd have to say that we HAVE known each other for years. Just yesterday I turned him on to my soon-to-be son-in-laws side business. He does hog hunts. Night, thermal scope, suppressed AR hunts (he supplies the AR, scope, and suppressor if you don't have one), day hunts, day hunts with dogs, helicopter hunts ($500/hr), and once they get their Christmas present, night bow hunts. Imagine walking up on a big ole bore, in the (lit) dark, and sticking him with an arrow... ok so if you're a PETA member and hug mountain lions and bears for fun don't imagine that. <--- this is what is known as digressing... but it speaks to social interactions so I'll leave it The same women has cut my hair for 15 years or more. My quarterly visits to the hair salon are as much a social event as they are a necessity. Why go to a hair salon you might ask. (A) the gals that work there are smokin hot (I'm almost 60 and my vision is a bit blurry so bear in mind my version of smokin hot is skewed) and (B) women come in there to get themselves all prettied up (nails and whatnot). Where else are you going to find a high concentration of women with little to no competition (joking of course). Again, social...If I want whole milk, whole milk cheese, and fresh cream I drive down the road about 12 miles and visit Stryk's dairy. The local butcher will cut steaks as thick as I or anyone else wants them. Once a month there's a cattle auction just up the road. All of these things, in their own way, are social. Social media is not social. It's not even remotely associated with being social. It's isolationist and it's a detriment to society.

And my coffee cup is empty...  I think I'll run up to the Handy Stop and get some iced tea.


Whew, that was a two-cupper, iCe.  Now I'm going to go get a third and think about it.
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2017, 08:44:49 PM »
iCe, it seems we have a lot more in common than just lightning. I, too, had a VTX 1800 and almost died on it. Was coming back from the drag races in Baytown and decided it would be cool to do a speed run at night after a couple of too-expensive Budweisers. Old FM1405 had a lovely sweeper where it went around the Bayer plant. I knew it was there, had been around it MANY times, but in my tuck watching the speedo go past 140, it must have snuck up on me. I started to notice the white line to my right was encroaching on my straight-line path. It kept coming so I picked my head up just in time to realize the whole road was turning! Got on the binders hard, and as I went into the dirt shoulder I managed to slow down just enough to avoid taking out a sign. By that time I was down to about 50, and got back on the pavement. Turned out that was the fastest I would go for the rest of the way home.  I was also on the VTX forum and met a few guys and went on rides. That was my introduction to internet forums. While I see them as just forums for like-minded people to chat about stuff, I agree with you that they are not the open-season "anti-social networks" that the major platforms are. Thank god for that! 
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Re: The Scoop on Pooping
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2017, 10:28:28 PM »
iCe, it seems we have a lot more in common than just lightning. I, too, had a VTX 1800 and almost died on it. Was coming back from the drag races in Baytown and decided it would be cool to do a speed run at night after a couple of too-expensive Budweisers. Old FM1405 had a lovely sweeper where it went around the Bayer plant. I knew it was there, had been around it MANY times, but in my tuck watching the speedo go past 140, it must have snuck up on me. I started to notice the white line to my right was encroaching on my straight-line path. It kept coming so I picked my head up just in time to realize the whole road was turning! Got on the binders hard, and as I went into the dirt shoulder I managed to slow down just enough to avoid taking out a sign. By that time I was down to about 50, and got back on the pavement. Turned out that was the fastest I would go for the rest of the way home.  I was also on the VTX forum and met a few guys and went on rides. That was my introduction to internet forums. While I see them as just forums for like-minded people to chat about stuff, I agree with you that they are not the open-season "anti-social networks" that the major platforms are. Thank god for that!

That's pretty cool (not the story... the common ground). Do you remember Lee and Snakebite? I stay in touch with them as best as I can. Stan (Snakebite) was behind me when I screwed up my shoulder. We were coming back from watching a dyno test on a dual induction system for the 1800 at a place called Johnny Cheese Performance in Round Rock. He was and still is a well known 'Busa tuner. He built one if the first twin turbo Hayabusa's and it set the first Texas Mile speed record (I think it was the first, its been a while). My VTX was a Retro and Lee built a nice set of forward controls for it. He was one of the California crew. I can picture a bunch of the other guys in my head but it's been too many years and I can't remember their names.

My first crash was kind of like what you almost had. I was in a 30 MPH S-curve. As I came out of the first curve at 60, maybe 70 (non-bike riders, double curve recommended speed isn't really that big of a deal), I accelerated (boy that was dumb, especially on that bike). I got a little too high in the second curve, hit some soft stuff and then all of the sudden, WHAM, sky, dirt, sky, dirt, sky dirt. When I stopped rolling (the big just slid on it's side) I got up and ran over to the bike, picked it up, and put it on it's side stand. You know how heavy that thing was. The adrenaline must have been flowing for me to do that. I had some road rash and my helmet was broke in two places (never wore a helmet after that). Within an hour I was getting sore and stiff. By nightfall I was hurting pretty bad. I'm still certain that picking the bike up jacked up my back muscles. Ibuprofen and not moving were the order of business for the weekend.

A guy that I had passed before the curve stopped to help me. The first thing he said was - I'll bet your don't do that again  :icon_lol:  Then he asked me if the bike "stopped like that" (meaning on the side stand). I told him I picked it up and he looked at me like I was nuts. He gave me a ride home and my boys went back to pick up the bike. Then I called my sister (she's an RN). She came over and made sure I wasn't too screwed up, pronounced me stupid but going to live, and off she went. Monday morning I called the bike shop and told them I was bringing it in. When I was there I asked if they could get it fixed pretty fast because I needed to ride to Colorado. They looked at my like I was nuts (common theme to this story). I still wasn't moving very good and my arms were pretty rashed up. I don't think they thought I would be riding anywhere anytime soon. I called them every week. During one call the mechanic wanted to know what I did. When I told him he said- I'll bet you don't do that again. :icon_lol: I got kind of tired of hearing that. They got it done in time... and I won't lie... the first few minutes were a little nerve wracking. But 900 miles later (stopped in Borger for the night) I was back in the saddle. It's a good way to travel but that's behind me now.

I just remembered another name - Weedeater. He got that name because he did what you did only not quite as fast. He got out of it without injury or damage too. There were a few that didn't :(

Poop... this wasn't at all about poop... Sorry for the off topic non-poop themed ramblings.

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« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2017, 10:31:19 PM »
That's some crazy sh*t. As the founder of the thread, I'm declaring it on-topic. (OK, dprather is the OP, but I'm the one that lobbied for "The Scoop on Pooping" breakaway thread. Don't shoot me, D.}
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« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2017, 06:13:12 AM »
Those kinds of experiences usually make one poop their pants so I would assume that we are still on topic.   ;D
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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