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Offline Ninersboss

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Re: Tires
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2008, 09:55:02 PM »
my wife didn't SAY anything...but I got the look.

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Re: Tires
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 08:17:11 PM »
The Nitto grapplers are ok (and cheaper), but they have problems such as very little street life, and a softer sidewall than the BFGs.

Since you mention Nitto, I have the Nitto Terragrapplers LT265/75R16 with about 30,000 miles on them. I am very pleased with them so far.

As for the sidewalls, I was driving in the metromess one day on my way to work when suddenly I see what looks like a 6” fuel transport hose in the middle of the road that had been run over several times as the metal shroud was exposed and coming apart. I was on an overpass with very little shoulder and no place to go. I was certain I was going to blow a tire or at least get that soft steering/handling feeling from a flat tire. Nothing happened until…a few weeks later I noticed:



I had been driving on this tire at highway speeds for several weeks in my daily commute without knowing its condition. It never lost tire pressure or gave any signs of impending failure. Took it to Discount Tire and told them my story and all they said was Whoa…there are steel cords exposed on close inspection, let me see if I have one of those in stock. I really like Discount’s road hazard warranty, well worth it.

I must say however, I have not driven with these tires on the rock shards of BIBE backroads, although I would not hesitate to do so. I will buy them again.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2011, 03:31:14 PM by Hoodoo »
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Re: Tires
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2009, 12:34:03 PM »
My favorite all purpose 4x4 tires are the BF Goodrich All Terrain TA tires.....been using them for years on my Jeeps....

Yep those are the ones to get.  I've been using on my Tacoma for years.  They are excellent tires.

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Re: Tires
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2009, 06:22:21 PM »
I've had BF Goodrich All Terrains, Mud-Terrains, and Uniroyal Cross Countries on my 4x4 Toyota P/U Longbed.  31x10.50 

My Cross Countries were the smoothest riding tires of the bunch and handled many a 4x4 trail.  I've never had a flat nor had to have them patched for any slow leaks. I think I have somewhere around 60k on them right now and should get another 20k out of them.  It could be that my truck is light, but I didn't get good wet traction out of them.

All Terrains were great, got 90,000 miles out of a pair, but they are more expensive than the Cross Countries.  Not as quiet as the Cross Countries, but not bad.

Mud-Terrains.  SUCK!!!  If you are off-road 50% of the time, then yes, they are great tires.  If you are only on the backroads every now and again, do not buy these tires!  The first 10,000 will not be too bad, then it will get very noisy and the tires will wear unevenly.  And no, I don't need an alignment as my latest tires are doing fine and I didn't get the front-end aligned.  I squeezed about 40k out of them before I had to get rid of them.  Some tread left but too dang loud.

I am looking at getting BF Goodrich Long-Trails (they have been redesigned and may no longer have the steel belts so I'll have to investigate first) or Michelin M/S (pricey) for my Escape.  The OEM (came with it new) Continental Contra Trac (left me stranded when I had two blowouts after hitting a not so sharp rock, turns out they only have 4 belts, none steel) were crap. 

Any of these tires should work on River Road or the likes with the exception of the Continentals.     
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 06:25:30 PM by Picacho »

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Re: Tires
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2009, 07:19:15 PM »
I've had BF Goodrich All Terrains, Mud-Terrains, and Uniroyal Cross Countries on my 4x4 Toyota P/U Longbed.  31x10.50 

My Cross Countries were the smoothest riding tires of the bunch and handled many a 4x4 trail.  I've never had a flat nor had to have them patched for any slow leaks. I think I have somewhere around 60k on them right now and should get another 20k out of them.  It could be that my truck is light, but I didn't get good wet traction out of them.

All Terrains were great, got 90,000 miles out of a pair, but they are more expensive than the Cross Countries.  Not as quiet as the Cross Countries, but not bad.

Mud-Terrains.  SUCK!!!  If you are off-road 50% of the time, then yes, they are great tires.  If you are only on the backroads every now and again, do not buy these tires!  The first 10,000 will not be too bad, then it will get very noisy and the tires will wear unevenly.  And no, I don't need an alignment as my latest tires are doing fine and I didn't get the front-end aligned.  I squeezed about 40k out of them before I had to get rid of them.  Some tread left but too dang loud.

I am looking at getting BF Goodrich Long-Trails (they have been redesigned and may no longer have the steel belts so I'll have to investigate first) or Michelin M/S (pricey) for my Escape.  The OEM (came with it new) Continental Contra Trac (left me stranded when I had two blowouts after hitting a not so sharp rock, turns out they only have 4 belts, none steel) were crap. 

Any of these tires should work on River Road or the likes with the exception of the Continentals.     


I too, am a fan of BF Goodrich Long-Trails. They have redesigned the tread pattern, but still have 2 full width steel belts. My last set went 80k.
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Re: Tires
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2009, 01:15:20 PM »
Speaking of fun ways to spend money, have any of you seen this toy? Sort of a Swiss army knife utility 4wd trailer.

http://www.adventuretrailers.com/index.html
I saw a trailer like that in Yellowstone last summer. It was opened up but no one was around so I didnt' get too close. Sure looked cool! I've been doing a lot of thinking since then about making one.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2009, 02:22:45 PM by RichardM »

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Re: Tires
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2009, 03:14:05 PM »
I think I'm in the market for some new tires. I have an '02 F-150 4x4. It originally came with Goodyear Wrangler AT/S tires, and the original set lasted over 60K. I replaced them with another set of AT/S tires and now have over 40K on that set.

The problem is that they make a lot of noise on the highway and they vibrate as if they're unbalanced (despite being frequently balanced by Discount). I've read some online reviews, and it seems that people have problems with the AT/S tires when they see some offroad use (uneven wear, flat spots, etc.).

I do a lot of highway and city driving, but I also do a fair bit of slow-speed off-roading on rough, rocky roads in the Hill Country where I hunt (and also out at Big Bend when I go once or twice a year).

Anyway, I wonder if it's worthwhile for me to get something different? The BF A/T KO's sound pretty nice and the online reviews are great, but they are some 50% more expensive than the Goodyear Wrangler AT/S tires. I was hoping a new set of tires would be under $1K! :willynilly:

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Offline Al

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Re: Tires
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2009, 04:06:20 PM »
I tend to be perhaps cheaper than I should on my tires.  I have some AVON Ranger tyres (from the UK) I bought from Tirerack a few years ago.  (I have been buying tires from Tirerack for a number of years although I may switch to Discount now that there is one fairly near and if they can come close to Tirerack's prices. )   The AVONs are street tires but have performed fine down dirt roads, grippy and I like them.  Michelin  should be on your list to check.  Do some research on Tirerack.

Al

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Offline Picacho

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Re: Tires
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2009, 05:08:22 PM »
I think I'm in the market for some new tires. I have an '02 F-150 4x4. It originally came with Goodyear Wrangler AT/S tires, and the original set lasted over 60K. I replaced them with another set of AT/S tires and now have over 40K on that set.

The problem is that they make a lot of noise on the highway and they vibrate as if they're unbalanced (despite being frequently balanced by Discount). I've read some online reviews, and it seems that people have problems with the AT/S tires when they see some offroad use (uneven wear, flat spots, etc.).

I do a lot of highway and city driving, but I also do a fair bit of slow-speed off-roading on rough, rocky roads in the Hill Country where I hunt (and also out at Big Bend when I go once or twice a year).

Anyway, I wonder if it's worthwhile for me to get something different? The BF A/T KO's sound pretty nice and the online reviews are great, but they are some 50% more expensive than the Goodyear Wrangler AT/S tires. I was hoping a new set of tires would be under $1K! :willynilly:

Long Trails would be my recommendation.  My dad has had 2 pairs on his 4x4 Tahoe and him and I have taken them up some 4x4 roads in NM and CO.  Never had any flats and never let us down.  They are much cheaper than A/T's as well.  I am probably going to get them on my Escape.  Sam's has them for $119, but I may hold out a little longer waiting on a sale from NTB or Discount Tire.  Seems like tire sales are few and far between these days.  I may drop by NTB and see if I can negotiate.  They have on my last 2 sets of tires.   

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Re: Tires
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2009, 09:33:21 PM »
...Michelin  should be on your list to check.  Do some research on Tirerack...

Long Trails would be my recommendation...

Thanks, guys, I'll check those out.

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Offline huachuca

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Re: Tires
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2009, 08:38:34 AM »
Wife - 05 Tacoma w/Long Trails - 95% highway, 5% FS roads & OBX beach
Daughter - 2K ZR2 Blazer w/TA KO's - 95% highway, 5% OBX beach
Me - 2K Wrangler w/TA KM's - 90% highway, 10% FS roads, OBX beach & offroad
* Percentages are by time not mileage

BFG's have been our tire of choice for past ten years but we may take a look at Kumho's next time around.  Put them on our camper last year and have been impressed so far (10K miles).

The Taco has been on just about every back road in BB with nary a problem.  The Long Trails are a great road tire in all conditions (dry, rain, snow, ice) where an aggressive tread is not required with excellent wear.  The KO's don't wear as well but are better on sand.  The KM's are noisy but I'm about deaf anyway and I've yet to get anywhere I couldn't get out of bwtween them and the Warn.

If you have a 'Just Tires' store in your area, give them a call as well.  Around here they beat any price by 5%.

Al   

 


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