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Spring North of the Dodson Place
« on: April 09, 2012, 02:40:07 PM »
Has anyone ever been up to the spring north of the Dodson place? I'd be interested in reading what the general area was like, if there was much water, character of the rock formations, etc. (and any pictures of course, para Homero). BTW the NPS seems to call this Rim Spring.

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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2012, 02:48:26 PM »
Has anyone ever been up to the spring north of the Dodson place? I'd be interested in reading what the general area was like, if there was much water, character of the rock formations, etc. (and any pictures of course, para Homero). BTW the NPS seems to call this Rim Spring.

Thanks,

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I've never been there, but it is called Rim Spring.
I don't think this shot shows it, but you can get an idea of the terrain in this area.  Rim spring will just be out of shot on the left.
This pic was taken from the top of Point 5412, which I unofficially call Dodson Peak.
South Rim from Dodson Peak (77 MP) - Big Bend National Park
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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 02:49:29 PM »
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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 10:38:07 PM »
Thanks, Lance, for the nice pano!  :icon_cool:

Seems I remember someone on the forum posting that they visited this Rim Spring above the Dodson Place, but I cannot recall if it was Picacho, Sanjuro, Robert, Randell, Viper, TWWG, or Billy Bob even that ventured up there...  :eusa_doh:

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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 08:32:00 AM »
There is a spring in the foothills above Dodson's, but it's not much more than a seep.  If you stand facing the lower side of the cabin where the trail passes, the direction of the spring is at about 2:00.  Go up the large drainage north of the cabin for (guess) 1/4 mile, then over a couple of lechuguilla-covered ridges and into and across a deep slickrock arroyo, some pretty good effort is needed to reach the place. Not a good water source, doesn't appear that the Dodsons used it.

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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 08:50:07 PM »
I (think) I have been to this spring but it was dry as a bone in April of 2011 (during the drought).  If you hike East from Dodson a short distance on the main trail you cross a relatively large sandy wash/arroyo, go about a mile or less up this arroyo and you will come to a place with stunted tree's and shady spots and calcite salt stained bedrock indicating water during wet or even normal times.  I think you will find this on the topo map as an unnamed spring and it may or may not be Rim Spring.   From the description given I think Rim Spring may be further updip but probably even less likely to hold water.     TWWG

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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 09:40:51 PM »
TWWG, here is a topo with the unnamed spring marked on it. Looks just like the one you described. I got the "Rim Spring" name and matching coordinates from a paper containing NPS spring survey data. Do you recall this to be a little slickrock sort of canyon as Juan was describing? Any shade where a tent might be pitched do you reckon?

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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 11:22:19 AM »
Here is the thread with the link for the paper containing the spring/tinaja coordinates:

http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/el-saloacuten/springtinaja-coordinates/msg99984/#msg99984
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Re: Spring North of the Dodson Place
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 10:01:24 PM »
It's not really a slickrock canyon at least not much of one but it does have places where you could easily pitch a tent in some shade.   The arroyo floor is about 4-8' cut in below grade and the tree's (I use the term loosely) are on a sloping bench above them on the West side with several areas on both sides suitable for a single tent or two but not a group campsite.  It's been raining a lot lately and the spring might be flowing now but I would not count on it.  Dodson Spring is reliable though,  bail out the algae and scum and let it settle for 20 minutes and it will be clean, clear, and relatively cool water.   People dis Dodson Spring as a water source but if you go 30' upstream from the trail crossing you will find a short rock wall at the head of the springs with a 4-6" deep pool beneath it.  Bail out all the scum and algae out of this pool and it will refill with clean water for both man and beast alike.   Filter it nonetheless.

Myself I prefer to camp near water (like at Dodson) but if you want to rough it you can camp at the "spring" but I would not count on it for a water source.  It's only a short distance to Dodson and in either location your unlikely to have any company this time of year.   

The hike down from Dodson to beneath Tortuga Mtn is a great cross country route.  Stay out of the Dodson arroyo for the first 1/2 mile then drop down into it after it thins out and you can have an enjoyable hike down to right below Tortuga Mtn.   You can climb out of the arroyo and up Tortuga from this side or just relax below the Tortuga ramparts at the springs which are prevalent in this drainage.   TWWG

 

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