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Offline JenBDun

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GPS woes
« on: February 26, 2017, 10:48:20 PM »
In preparation for our late March trip to BiBe, and for future hiking trips in the works, I purchased a Garmin GPSmap 64 ST. The smart phone has failed me too many times in Northern WI and the UP of MI to feel comfortable in the middle of west Texas.
Learning to use this thing has been a challenge, and I don't think I'm a dummy. The manual is bad and the function not intuitive. I know these devices predate the smartphones so perhaps the typical user would disagree. Maybe my smartphone use has spoiled me for easily learning of this device. Does anyone have advice on where to find a decent tutorial? Basecamp is also a bit baffling but I'm learning at bit every day. I'd take recommendations there too. At worst I have an expensive way to mark waypoints and backtrack if I get lost. If I can get comfortable with it, hopefully it will be an important tool. Secretly I am planning to buy a nice paper map that never fails.


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Offline presidio

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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2017, 11:58:30 PM »
I purchased a Garmin GPSmap 64 ST.
Learning to use this thing has been a challenge, and I don't think I'm a dummy. The manual is bad and the function not intuitive.

Garmin manuals tend to be well written, but I've not looked at one in years.

The best advice is to have a supply of batteries and spend some quality time trying out every page/function on the unit. There's nothing you can hurt by pushing all the buttons. Methodically go through the manual.

I suspect you're wanting to put some maps on the unit, otherwise you only will see a track line and location data with nothing to reference visually. That's where BaseCamp comes in. It is a bit complicated but, again, with the manual and some experimentation you should quickly get the hang of it.

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Now that I looked at the unit, I see it has the 100K topo map set installed. You're going to want to install relevant 24K maps for your trip. You can buy data packs from Garmin, but I would go online to one of the free topo map sources and download what you need. Garmin will be easier...plugging in an SD card, but doing your own install will not only make you learn to do that with BaseCamp, but also save you a lot of cash.
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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 07:53:17 AM »
The  Garmin GPSmap 64 ST + BaseCamp + Google Earth is a powerful combination for planning. Stick with it...

I have a detailed topo that has been used by quite a few people, if you are interested?

https://mirrormagic.com/2011/01/14/big-bend-topo/
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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2017, 08:27:58 AM »
+1 on Badknees map, this is the one you want for the park.

Get some good Lithium batteries, they should last for a week's worth of hiking unless the 64T uses significantly more juice than the 60csx. All you need Basecamp for is creating routes and downloading that and your maps to your GPS. That should be pretty intuitive.

Using the Track Log is also beneficial to understand where you went and by using timestamps you can match your photos to your location. Nice to have that as your memory fades.

There is a Garmin forum for questions about your GPS and Basecamp (under Windows Software). Or you could just post your questions here.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2017, 08:37:01 AM by Robert »

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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 09:09:06 AM »
+1 on Badknees map, this is the one you want for the park.


Robert,

Did it serve you well on you MV/TC romp. If you have any tracks that would improve the map in that area, I could update it. Especially along TC. I think the MV trail is good, but that data for TC may not be perfect?
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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 01:17:42 PM »
The  Garmin GPSmap 64 ST + BaseCamp + Google Earth is a powerful combination for planning. Stick with it...

I have a detailed topo that has been used by quite a few people, if you are interested?

https://mirrormagic.com/2011/01/14/big-bend-topo/
Thank you. I am very interested. I saw your note to Various Windows users. I am using a Mac if that matters.


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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 01:20:35 PM »
The  Garmin GPSmap 64 ST + BaseCamp + Google Earth is a powerful combination for planning. Stick with it...

I have a detailed topo that has been used by quite a few people, if you are interested?

https://mirrormagic.com/2011/01/14/big-bend-topo/
Thank you. I am very interested. I saw your note to Various Windows users. I am using a Mac if that matters.


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I can provide a MAC version. Comment me at the web link above, and I'll get you sorted.
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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2017, 01:57:14 PM »
Did it serve you well on you MV/TC romp. If you have any tracks that would improve the map in that area, I could update it. Especially along TC. I think the MV trail is good, but that data for TC may not be perfect?

Sent Badknees the track log so he could validate our TC tracks against his map.

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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2017, 02:05:41 PM »
Did it serve you well on you MV/TC romp. If you have any tracks that would improve the map in that area, I could update it. Especially along TC. I think the MV trail is good, but that data for TC may not be perfect?

Sent Badknees the track log so he could validate our TC tracks against his map.

And a cool track it is!! Thanks Robert.
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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2017, 02:14:55 PM »
Did it serve you well on you MV/TC romp. If you have any tracks that would improve the map in that area, I could update it. Especially along TC. I think the MV trail is good, but that data for TC may not be perfect?

Sent Badknees the track log so he could validate our TC tracks against his map.

Robert, could you send it to me as well?

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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2017, 02:54:57 PM »
Did it serve you well on you MV/TC romp. If you have any tracks that would improve the map in that area, I could update it. Especially along TC. I think the MV trail is good, but that data for TC may not be perfect?

Sent Badknees the track log so he could validate our TC tracks against his map.

Robert, could you send it to me as well?

Could you please make it available via a link on BBC? Would eliminate a lot of individual requests.

Thanks.
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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2017, 09:51:10 PM »
JenBDun,
I know what you mean about the Garmin interface. It's clunky! I've been so mad at mine, I just about threw it in the river. We're spoiled by the iPhone. When we pick up a handheld electronic device in 2017, it's supposed to be easy to use, right? You would think so but using a GPS unit is like searching for a movie on Netflix.
You have to spend some time with it. Practice and watch tutorials. Once you get fluent, it's a great tool.
I only hike once a year so I tend to get rusty in the off season so before every hike, I load new tracks and do a refresher before I head out.


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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 10:05:41 PM »
Another Mac user with a Garmin 64...Please do that link BK! I'd appreciate it.

Still rusty using mine but I used it on the last trip.  Although only did South Rim and Chimneys, it is neat to see them when I got them overlaid on Google Earth.

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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2017, 10:33:57 PM »
Another Mac user with a Garmin 64...Please do that link BK! I'd appreciate it.

Still rusty using mine but I used it on the last trip.  Although only did South Rim and Chimneys, it is neat to see them when I got them overlaid on Google Earth.
Go to the link I posted above and make the request there and I'll get you sorted.
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Offline JenBDun

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Re: GPS woes
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2017, 10:27:36 PM »
Another Mac user with a Garmin 64...Please do that link BK! I'd appreciate it.

Still rusty using mine but I used it on the last trip.  Although only did South Rim and Chimneys, it is neat to see them when I got them overlaid on Google Earth.
Go to the link I posted above and make the request there and I'll get you sorted.

Thank you for the map, it looks great. The second attempt at saving the map went well. Although not yet fluent in Basecamp or the use of the GPS unit yet, I am feeling hopeful about saving waypoints, not getting lost, etc. 


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