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Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS

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Offline elhombre

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Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« on: October 07, 2016, 08:42:38 AM »
That's right.  You did feel a disturbance in the Force.  I have decide to get a GPS for a few reasons.  I just returned from a 6 nighter in Alberta and a GPS would have been beneficial.  Also, I want to start marking places I find during my travels for my little girl, and me to have a record. I already can't remember all the Indian ruins or panels we have found in Utah, or good flat spots for a tent in BB.  More immediately, pre-trip I would like to input way points of old roads and springs that I see on Google Earth.  I have been educating myself for the past few days about what is out there.  I think this is being discontinued, but is being sold cheap. Like $165 Amazon cheap  Garmin etrex 20x
https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-010-01508-00-eTrex-20x/dp/B00XQE6ZFG

I know it does not have a compass.  I know it does not have a real altimeter.  I know no "touch screen" means that it takes a while to enter in names for way points while on the trail.  All acceptable.

My question to you Gps guys.  Is it a good fit for entering way points from Google Earth?  I think I understand that I will need to use a free program from Garmin, "BaseCamp", to facilitate data entry.  The owners manual does not address entering in google earth files very well.  It seems I will need the device and installed program in front of me to be able to follow along with some internet instructions I found.  But is it overly difficult with this low end unit?

Is there another unit out there that is much easier to enter in google earth files?  Am I missing a entirely different mapping system other than Google earth that is easier to work with?

Finally, How big of a micro SD card would y'all recommend?  I guess I would download what I want off of it after most every trip.

Ever since I went hiking with Lance and saw how he used his GPS, the seed has been growing in my mind.  Also, I have enjoyed seeing some of y'alls tracks that are posted in the trip reports.  Thanks for any advice you can throw out there.
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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2016, 09:49:17 AM »
That's right.  You did feel a disturbance in the Force.  I have decide to get a GPS for a few reasons.  I just returned from a 6 nighter in Alberta and a GPS would have been beneficial.  Also, I want to start marking places I find during my travels for my little girl, and me to have a record. I already can't remember all the Indian ruins or panels we have found in Utah, or good flat spots for a tent in BB.  More immediately, pre-trip I would like to input way points of old roads and springs that I see on Google Earth.  I have been educating myself for the past few days about what is out there.  I think this is being discontinued, but is being sold cheap. Like $165 Amazon cheap  Garmin etrex 20x
https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-010-01508-00-eTrex-20x/dp/B00XQE6ZFG

I know it does not have a compass.  I know it does not have a real altimeter.  I know no "touch screen" means that it takes a while to enter in names for way points while on the trail.  All acceptable.

My question to you Gps guys.  Is it a good fit for entering way points from Google Earth?  I think I understand that I will need to use a free program from Garmin, "BaseCamp", to facilitate data entry.  The owners manual does not address entering in google earth files very well.  It seems I will need the device and installed program in front of me to be able to follow along with some internet instructions I found.  But is it overly difficult with this low end unit?

Is there another unit out there that is much easier to enter in google earth files?  Am I missing a entirely different mapping system other than Google earth that is easier to work with?

Finally, How big of a micro SD card would y'all recommend?  I guess I would download what I want off of it after most every trip.

Ever since I went hiking with Lance and saw how he used his GPS, the seed has been growing in my mind.  Also, I have enjoyed seeing some of y'alls tracks that are posted in the trip reports.  Thanks for any advice you can throw out there.

The "engine" for the 20X is more than capable. I looked at the specs and the unit will provide you with good accuracy in cover and will handle canyons too. If you are OK with the limitations that you listed then it will do all the things you have asked for.

To enter data from Google Earth is not difficult.

1 . Go to Google Earth - draw tracks, add points etc.
2. Save as .kml or .kmz file
3. Import into BaseCamp.
4. Edit or add whatever you want in BaseCamp
5. Upload to your 20X

BaseCamp works pretty well and interfaces with Google Earth. You can view tracks, routes and points in Google Earth, from BaseCamp. It's not very difficult at all. You can build a route in Google Earth, send it to BaseCamp and then use BaseCamp to upload to your GPS.

I rarely enter any data on a GPS when I'm hiking with the exception waypoints  or single points of interest. This is quite easily done with a minimum of keystrokes.

The unit appears to have 3.7 GB of internal memory which is used for the base map, recording tracks, adding routes and waypoints. The card memory can be used to add additional maps (ie Topos) and also to save active tracks to memory card (a backup) That allows you to delete the tracks in active memory and still have them on the sd card.  I use a 2 gb card, have  my Big Bend Topo loaded and never run into any limitations. The track files are just not that big. A 10 mile hike with normal sampling rate is only 2-300kb. My full topo of the whole park is only 23 mb.

Saving tracks and waypoints to review, print edit etc is as simple as connecting the GPS to your computer with a USB cable and pulling the tracks into BaseCamp or just saving the .gpx files. GPX is a universal format that can be used by virtually any mapping program. Google Earth included.

Others should weigh in on their opinion, but that is mine.

A GPS is a valuable tool. Welcome to the world of geolocation.....

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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2016, 09:53:18 AM »
I'm still a bit wobbly from the idea of el hombre having a GPS

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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2016, 11:36:24 AM »
ElHombre, I have a eTrex 20 and it does a decent job for me. As BK mentioned, BaseCamp is very helpful both pre and post-trip. Having one is invaluable when doing hit-and-run hikes: Create a waypoint at your starting point, set one for your desired destination, and off you go. Upon returning, I just glance at the screen once in a while to see that I am roughly following the way I came or an easier way back, whichever applies!  :icon_biggrin:  Of course, I also follow a practice of otherwise navigating by visible landmarks as a backup.  :eusa_whistle:

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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2016, 11:38:12 AM »
I'm still a bit wobbly from the idea of el hombre having a GPS

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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2016, 12:55:09 PM »
Come to the dark side you will, i have foreseen a gps in your future

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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2016, 01:10:50 PM »
I'm still a bit wobbly from the idea of el hombre having a GPS

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If my memory serves me, weren't you a holdout?

Still are a reluctant and not regular user but it is faster to check ones location than using the compass when one needs to.   :great:
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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 01:19:58 PM »
I still use a flip phone. 
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2016, 01:58:05 PM »
It is a breeze to move between a Garmin and Google earth.

I have the 64st because I like the altimeter, magnetic compass, and very customizable screens (I like to see sunset, speed, odometer, time, etc) but the one you're looking at will be more than capable for navigation.

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Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2016, 10:19:58 PM »
Get the best Garmin you can afford. I have the Oregon 450T - no complaints. My first GPS was on the cheap with an eTrex Venture HC. That thing was so hard to use that I came very near to throwing it in the river a couple of times. I finally gave it away.


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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2016, 10:34:35 PM »
I doubt that El Hombre really needs a stinking dedicated GPS device.

I've been running Gaia GPS software on my smart phone for about a year. While I've not been using all its features, the ones I use work well. And I think it will do everything that a dedicated GPS device will do.

I'm far from being expert in this field, but I think you should consider downloading some GPS software to your smart phone before buying a dedicated device. The software only cost me about $20.

Geezer

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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2016, 10:57:45 PM »
I doubt that El Hombre really needs a stinking dedicated GPS device.

I've been running Gaia GPS software on my smart phone for about a year. While I've not been using all its features, the ones I use work well. And I think it will do everything that a dedicated GPS device will do.

I'm far from being expert in this field, but I think you should consider downloading some GPS software to your smart phone before buying a dedicated device. The software only cost me about $20.

Geezer

I would respectfully disagree for the following reasons:

Battery life
Track Accuracy
Receiver sensitivity
Unit durability
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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2016, 08:00:16 AM »
Thank You all for the responses.  I think  I will give the thing a go.  At $165, it is cheaper than a new pair of boots, and I'm pretty sure I can talk my little girl into carrying it.  I'm sure I will use it on the next trip out there because I want to use some of the old roads as hiking paths to facilitate smooth travels through the open desert.  After that, time will tell.  Thanks again for all the time to write a response.  :eusa_clap:
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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2016, 11:53:49 AM »
One final tip: practice around town some before you head out. Good call on your daughter carrying the thing. She's likely to be better at using it than you are.


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Re: Help me please. I'm going to buy a GPS
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2016, 10:36:34 PM »
^^^  :great:
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