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Offline badknees

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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2013, 02:53:24 PM »
Homer, I think I might have been driven by the same desire - use my simple and elegant iPhone to replace a clunky Garmin eTrex Venture HC.

I've tinkered with MotionX for a few years but haven't gotten it to work out of cell range. They claim it will work once you have the map data downloaded into your cache which you supposedly do by scrolling through your proposed hike. Cache space is limited though. I did all that but when I tested the system by turning off cell data, it wouldn't work for me. Google earth is supposed to work in similar fashion but I haven't been successful with it either. If you figure it out let me know.

The question still remains for me; Why can't the GPS manufacturers come up a decent display and an intuitive interface?

Well.......you need to pony up some money and move ahead. The E-Trex Venture is a discontinued  old model that cost about $150 new. It was a low end model then, and doesn't come close to what is available today.
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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2013, 03:08:40 PM »
I know my eTrex was "low end". I was "low end" myself at the time I bought it and maybe I'm still "low end" compared to some who speak with authority but from what I can tell the newer GPS units still have a relatively small display and a cumbersome interface, eh?
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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2013, 03:54:19 PM »
from what I can tell the newer GPS units still have a relatively small display and a cumbersome interface, eh?

True enough, but that's what you're going to get in something pocketable & reliable, with good battery life. I love my 60CSx, but some of the functions are less than intuitive, to be sure.
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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2013, 06:10:14 PM »
We will see how well the app works --- it claims it will work when cell/data service is lost; however, I will be backing things up with my etrex.

Access to maps is pretty much all I need, and the app will most certainly do that (already have entire park downloaded to phone).  For ALL of our trips, though, I've needed no maps; by the time we get to the park I have just about burned every nuance of the area we are hiking into in to my head. Of course I have the basic backtrack etrex to get us out, which in reality is all we need. Now our trips are completely off-trail, so maps have become more important.

I'll let you guys know how well it does. This will most certainly answer a lot of questions raised here, especially how the phone gets it's gps coordinates. Recharging the phone in the field is no problem.

The gps receiver for the iphone sure looks nice, but does it fit the 5?  Do they sell an adapter?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2013, 06:24:44 PM by Homer67 »
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2013, 02:55:22 PM »
Well, I checked out this app when we were in the park recently.  I had no cell or data service and the app actually worked when we were fairly deep in the Quemada!  I only pulled out the phone a few times to see if it would be accurate on our position, and it was. I cached the aerial view as well as the topos beforehand and it worked nicely. 

I don't think I'll rely solely on this, but the app does have nice features, such as being able to tag a spot with photos, video and voice memos. I kept everything charged using an inverter/battery charger that goes with my solar panel.  It all worked very nicely!

Ah Big Bend, we will soon return to reacquaint ourselves in our ritual of blood, exhaustion and dehydration. How can we resist the temptation to strip ourselves of the maladies of civilization?

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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2013, 12:41:27 PM »
Didn't see any references toiHikeGPS by James assoc: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ihikegps/id351499175?mt=8

I just used it in Guad mtns NP (Dog Canyon) and extensively in SE Utah and Escalante/Grand Staircase where there isn't a hint of cell service, and it did remarkably well. Can't beat free maps, either. My "real" gps is an ancient Garmin eTrex Legend, which is due for a replacement, but I am pretty cheap.

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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2013, 02:10:52 PM »
I used an HTC myTouch Running BackCountry Navigator PRO version 4.9.3 and staying powered with a solar charger on my most recent explorations in the Chisos back country without a hitch.  I was, however, not in deep canyons.  My old Garmin 45XL did not do so well in some of the deeper ravines.
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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2013, 05:12:35 PM »
My iPhone is usually quite accurate but was never accurate to more than 3 blocks when I ws in Seattle earlier this year (sometimes it was close to a mile off for extended periods).  My 60csx has never failed me though.  If I get a new phone, I will have to do an awful lot of testing with it before I'd rely on it in the backcountry. 

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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2013, 09:11:23 PM »
Here's a screenshot of a hike last month in Utah with no cell coverage; track log shows it was pretty darn accurate.

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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2013, 10:55:53 AM »
Is that your accuracy? + or - 16 feet? Can't ask for much more than that. I see the weakness though, 26% battery left. On a longer day hike, it might not get you home.
Battery packs are an option as are solar chargers - all add weight to an old man's pack.
I love the interface, so much friendlier but for longer hikes, the dedicated GPS still rules. Pop in new AA batteries when needed. Start with some decent rechargeable batteries and they might make it a full 3 days.

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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2013, 12:42:02 PM »
I have been very happy with my Goal Zero battery charger.  It came with 4 3200 mAh batteries.  It kept the phone and my old zune charged for the whole trip without having to plug it into the panel. It has also worked nicely on our extended trips where we will do two big hikes with a night or two between; it's not bad to pull out the panel and charge the inverter for 30 minutes when roadsiding at PC4.
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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2013, 02:01:28 PM »
So the Goal Zero battery pack is the power source for the recharge? The solar panel is extra? At $22, it makes want to take back my new $200 Oregon 450-T GPS. I'm already not liking it too much. It must be Garmin in general that rubs me wrong.

Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2013, 09:23:05 PM »
It was actually about 30% when I finished the hike; my iPhone's case has a battery, so I had another 5 hours or so left if I'd needed it.

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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2013, 11:01:29 AM »
One can charge directly from the panel; it has connections for usb and 12 V; the inverter/battery charger has its own plug on the panel.  The inverter/charger can also be charged via usb on one's computer or other power source.  The batteries serve as the power source when they are charged for the charger (Guide 10 Plus). The panel (Nomad 7) and battery charger (with 4 AA 3200 mAh NiMH batteries as well) can be bought as a bundle.  It's about $120 total. The panel folds up (tri-fold) into about a 6"X8" rectangle, so not too bad. If we are on a hike that is 4+ nights, I will take the panel, but I usually just take the charger. It's nice to be able to switch out the NiMH batteries in my camera for the charged ones in the Guide 10 Charger.  It takes about an hour to charge the AA's off the panel if they are completely down.

I also have a neat little light that is a row of LEDs that plugs into the charger for light in the tent. I also have an adapter for the charger that allows it to charge AAA NiMH batteries, for our headlamps.

I have used this system for my last 7 trips to BiBe and it has worked remarkably well.
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Re: iphone Apps II
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2013, 09:50:23 PM »
Hope folks don't mind an addition to an older thread.  But we've had good luck with the Topo Maps app for iPhone, both in big bend and mt rainier.  Brought a solid charger for Mt Rainier (9 day trip) and that worked to keep the battery up, didn't bring anything for a 3 day in big bend.

But we also don't continually track position with the iPhone.  It is kept in airplane mode/asleep unless in use to take a picture, and we only go out of airplane mode when we actually need to confirm our location. I still use my hard copy map for primary navigation, but the GPS is nice to confirm location in unclear territory, or in weather conditions that severely hamper visibility.

 


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