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How well is everything marked when you are outside of GUMO?
We did the Guadalupe Ridge trail from Rattlesnake Canyon to a bit past Devil's Den. It's an easy trail to follow through Carlsbad. It's the only trail, but a bit overgrown in places. Once you hit Lincoln NF there's a series of forest roads that you follow that are well traveled and almost always have road numbers posted - you just need to know which ones to follow. You can fill up water at the Black River spring in Lincoln NF, again at McKittrick Canyon ranger station and again at Pine Spring. No need to cache.
Myself and two others did the full 100 Miles in April over ten days going South to North. There's actually a variety of good options to refill or cache along the way without relying on springs. If anyone is considering it I'm happy to share whatever I know here or in an email.
- Carlsbad Caverns NP (inside visitor center, park hours, water/restrooms/food) - Self Explanatory- Putman Cabin (heard there is water storage tank for rangers, not sure if available for public) - No water, only an overturned bear box- Horse Spring (junction GRT & T207, start of Sitting Bull Falls alt, no info) - Reliable but difficult to access per conversation on IG with another GRT hiker- Agua Dulce Seep (on T210/main GRT if not taking SBF alt, confirmed tank with water in fall 2019) - Correct, full tank on our trip- Taylor Tank (near T208 x FS527, no info)- Bearup Well (near FS527 x FS9573, no info)- Cowboy Tank (near FS9573 x FS9429, no info)- Red Tank (near FS9431 x FS527, no info)- Guadalupe District Administration Site (NM 137, business hours only? not sure if outside access) - Water spigot on left side of parking area, near cave permit kiosk- Sitting Bull Falls (water, restrooms) - Self Explanatory- Logan Spring (Last Chance Canyon Trail, no info)- White Oaks Spring (T217, no info)- East Well (FS525 x FS525C, no info)- Town of Queen (about 1 mi off FS525, not sure about services, there is a seasonal Christian Campground and a fantastic restaurant with limited hours, check Facebook for Queen store & Cafe, get pie and a green chile cheeseburger if they are open) - - Mountain Man burger is amazing. The owners, Lynn & Kim Ballard are great folks- Cache near Old Hepler Ranch (Cougar Rd x T210, access via NM 107 from Queen) - Super easy access- Agua Dulce Seep (mentioned above, about 2+ mi east of Cougar Rd x T210) - See above- Dark Canyon Lookout Tower (can cache here via Klondike Gap Rd via Klondike Rd/NM 137, privy) - Easy access, gets more traffic than you would expect- Black River Spring (FS201 x FS201A, confirmed water by several BBC members)Two brand new 4500 gallon tanks at 32.045993, -104.786645 - Full during our trip- Klondike Rd x FS201 (cache spot, access via NM 137) - Easy access, gets more traffic than you would expect- Devilís Den Spring (FS3008 x T202, think someone here said there is water)- McKittrick Trail Head (water, restrooms) - Self Explanatory- McKittrick creek (only at trail crossings, Pratt Cabin appears to be closest if coming NOBO from McKittrick Ridge)- Pine Springs CG - Self ExplanatoryI have no idea if the tanks/wells/springs with no info are wet, based on the location most are probably dry. I plan on checking all of them when I go just to provide updated info for those wishing to hike the GRT in the future. Most of them are on the Sitting Bull Falls loop which wouldnít apply to people looking to do the ~70 mile direct route.The goal for me would be to complete the ~100 mile route without caches if possible.Anyone know the etiquette for getting water from cow tanks? People on the CDT and AZT do it all the time but I donít want to piss off any ranchers.Thanks for any help!
Quote from: BJC on December 20, 2019, 10:40:55 PM- Putman Cabin (heard there is water storage tank for rangers, not sure if available for public) - No water, only an overturned bear boxMy experience with the Carlsbad Caverns-GUMO route is almost 25 years ago, so probably not useful, but I am curious about the current state of the Putman Cabin water source. Back in the day, the cabin had an extensive rainwater collection system that emptied into a huge (1000+ gallon) above-ground cistern. In order to draw water, hikers had to climb the superstructure and lower bags/bottles/buckets into it by means of a rope. Is this setup completely gone now?Sent from my iPhone using Big Bend Chat
- Putman Cabin (heard there is water storage tank for rangers, not sure if available for public) - No water, only an overturned bear box
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