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Any GUMO Trips Planned?

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Offline wrangler88

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Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« on: August 07, 2017, 07:11:19 PM »
Just trying to stir up some action on this board ...

I'm headed out to GUMO the first week of September. Wondering if anyone else is planning a trip around this time?


Also have a few ideas for some trips to GUMO during the winter.

Anyone else planning anything?

Anyone interested in a planning a meet up over the winter? If not, I may do the OML or Rancharitas Loop over the winter.

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Offline TexasAggieHiker

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 11:26:29 PM »
I've always got a GUMO trip in the back of my mind.  Only a couple trails I have hit yet.  And I still haven't seen a good snow storm there.

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 08:32:27 AM »
Just trying to stir up some action on this board ...
I check this board most days, but it's been quiet lately.  Well, dead, to be more accurate.  I don't blame anyone for avoiding the park in the heat of summer, if that's the explanation. 

I'm hoping to return to the park this year, after the rainy season, but not sure I'll be able to swing it.  As for winter, I'm full of grand ideas about winter backpacking when warm and dry and comfortable at home (or sweltering in the central Texas heat).  The onset of actual winter usually has a sobering effect.

I've been thinking about tents.  My strategy has been to use my Eureka tent for parking-lot camping, and the Tarptent for the backcountry.  The Eureka is a two-pole dome with a rectangular floor.  This design does not work well in the Guadalupe breezes.  Two poles are just not enough to hold the fabric taut, so all night long the sides suck in and out, even in light winds.  I think a geodesic design is needed for more rigidity.   

As for the Tarptent, although it hasn't been put to the test in strong winds, I think it will do well because of its catenary cut.  I prefer not using it for parking-lot campground, though.  It's less roomy, and I also want to save it for the backcountry, and keep it from needless wear and tear.
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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2017, 10:27:26 AM »
Backpacker56, what style tarptent do you have? I used a double rainbow out there in very strong winds and it held up well.

I've also I used another tarptent but it wasn't windy at all. With the smaller end pitched into the wind, I think they would all hold up well.

I used a Zpacks duplex the past couple times and it did great in the wind.

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2017, 10:29:56 AM »
I've always got a GUMO trip in the back of my mind.  Only a couple trails I have hit yet.  And I still haven't seen a good snow storm there.

I have a couple trails left as well. I'm going in September to finish up hopefully.

I've just seen a little snow. Hopefully over the winter I'll have a chance to experience more. I really want to check out a few off trail destinations this winter.

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 11:33:52 AM »
I plan to be out there a day or two labor day weekend. Trails and people are not a concern, as I will be off trail most places I'll go. Use a  trail here and there to access portions of the area.

Let me know you itinerary when you have it.
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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 11:35:42 AM »
Just trying to stir up some action on this board ...
  I don't blame anyone for avoiding the park in the heat of summer, if that's the explanation. 


Homer Wilson and I'll be out there in about 10 days. Off trail of course.
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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 12:34:41 PM »
Backpacker56, what style tarptent do you have?

It's a Tarptent MoTrail.  There are some photos of it in my last two trip reports.  It's like a pup tent with a sag along the ridgeline.  https://www.tarptent.com/motrail.html
 
I was thinking the original Eureka Timberline was designed with a catenary ridgeline, but I've not been able to find any archival evidence online.  Of course, domes are much roomier than A-frames, but in the MoTrail I was looking to reduce weight.
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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2017, 02:47:27 PM »
I plan to be out there a day or two labor day weekend. Trails and people are not a concern, as I will be off trail most places I'll go. Use a  trail here and there to access portions of the area.

Let me know you itinerary when you have it.

I'll be there Mon Sept 4, Tue the 5th, and head home midmorning of the 6th.
I'm either doing the Salt Basin Loop and Permian Reef Trail Monday and then over to McKittrick Ridge Tuesday.
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Salt Basin Loop and McKittrick Ridge Monday and then over to Wilderness Ridge Tuesday. I haven't quite decided.

Over the winter I want to spend a couple days at Shumard Campsite exploring it and Bone Canyon. And also spend a couple days hitting off trail high points like Shumard and Bartlett. We'll see how all that goes for sure.

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2017, 02:52:10 PM »
Just trying to stir up some action on this board ...
  I don't blame anyone for avoiding the park in the heat of summer, if that's the explanation. 


Homer Wilson and I'll be out there in about 10 days. Off trail of course.

Sounds hot. Haha. Hope to see a trip report. Wish I could get out there sooner.

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Offline TexasAggieHiker

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2017, 11:43:35 PM »
I plan to be out there a day or two labor day weekend. Trails and people are not a concern, as I will be off trail most places I'll go. Use a  trail here and there to access portions of the area.

Let me know you itinerary when you have it.

I'll be there Mon Sept 4, Tue the 5th, and head home midmorning of the 6th.
I'm either doing the Salt Basin Loop and Permian Reef Trail Monday and then over to McKittrick Ridge Tuesday.
OR
Salt Basin Loop and McKittrick Ridge Monday and then over to Wilderness Ridge Tuesday. I haven't quite decided.

Over the winter I want to spend a couple days at Shumard Campsite exploring it and Bone Canyon. And also spend a couple days hitting off trail high points like Shumard and Bartlett. We'll see how all that goes for sure.
Here's something to whet your appetite for Shumard and Bartlett.

This is Shumard, Guadalupe, and El Capitan taken between Bartlett and Shumard.


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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2017, 08:15:01 AM »
That's a great shot TexasAggie. Did you hike the 4 highest peaks in a day or do Shumard and Bartlett together?

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2017, 08:19:15 AM »
Backpacker56, what style tarptent do you have?

It's a Tarptent MoTrail.  There are some photos of it in my last two trip reports.  It's like a pup tent with a sag along the ridgeline.  https://www.tarptent.com/motrail.html
 
I was thinking the original Eureka Timberline was designed with a catenary ridgeline, but I've not been able to find any archival evidence online.  Of course, domes are much roomier than A-frames, but in the MoTrail I was looking to reduce weight.

Oh yeah I remember seeing your pictures. I had a contrail a long time ago and loved it. I've always loved tarptent. I only got rid of my double rainbow to go even lighter. It was a great tent though.

I did have a ton of condensation in my squall2 when my wife and I went in September a few years back. Other than that, I've never had any problems at all. They make a great backpacking tent.

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2017, 08:58:08 AM »
wrangler88,
Always impressed by how much ground you cover in your outings.   Your next trip will be just 2-1/2 days long, yet such diverse and demanding objectives!  My tendency all along has been to underrate my strength, and/or overrate the difficulties.  It's good to push the envelope, whatever one's age or abilities, and see that you can do better than you thought.

I'm excited for you to do the McKittrick Trail up to McKittrick Ridge.  I think you'll find it exceptional.  I want to do the Permian Reef/Wilderness Ridge sometime; I'll bet it's a blast.  I wonder if there's a trip report on it anywhere?  Haven't seen any photos, other than car campers driving in from the north.

The Shumard/Bone Canyon trip sounds really good.  I wish I'd taken a little more time out there in May to see Bone Canyon, but then I shouldn't be greedy; what a great trip as it was!  While on the El Capitan Trail, I couldn't help thinking about Colin Fletcher's hike along the Esplanade in Grand Canyon (The Man Who Walked Through Time).
"Ah, sure, I'm a gnawed old bone now, but say, don't you guys think the spirit's gone!"

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Re: Any GUMO Trips Planned?
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2017, 12:47:00 PM »
That's a great shot TexasAggie. Did you hike the 4 highest peaks in a day or do Shumard and Bartlett together?
Did Bartlett and Shumard in a day from the Bush Mountain campsite.  Also did Guad and El Cap in a day. There's a trip report on hear somewhere.

*edt:  found it. http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/gumo-general-discussion/guadalupe-8-000-footers/
« Last Edit: August 09, 2017, 12:53:04 PM by TexasAggieHiker »

 


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