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"Found Water"

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Offline dprather

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"Found Water"
« on: August 29, 2016, 04:49:25 PM »
Our recent trip to the High Chisos and depending on found water was a revelation.

So, on the the OML...

Water at the Boot Pipe
Water at Juniper Spring
Water at Fresno

The problem is (as far as I can tell) there's nothing past Homer Wilson (going the traditional route) unless you hump up and over Colima and back to the pipe at Boot Spring.

Am I seeing this correctly???

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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 04:51:46 PM »
Our recent trip to the High Chisos and depending on found water was a revelation.

So, on the the OML...

Water at the Boot Pipe
Water at Juniper Spring
Water at Fresno

The problem is (as far as I can tell) there's nothing past Homer Wilson (going the traditional route) unless you hump up and over Colima and back to the pipe at Boot Spring.

Am I seeing this correctly???

Maybe upper Cattail....that has to be closer to the trail than Boot. However,  since it's only about 2 hours downhill from there to the Basin.......if you have to take on water there, you have grossly misplanned.
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 06:58:11 PM »
Our recent trip to the High Chisos and depending on found water was a revelation.

So, on the the OML...

Water at the Boot Pipe
Water at Juniper Spring
Water at Fresno

The problem is (as far as I can tell) there's nothing past Homer Wilson (going the traditional route) unless you hump up and over Colima and back to the pipe at Boot Spring.

Am I seeing this correctly???

Maybe upper Cattail....that has to be closer to the trail than Boot. However,  since it's only about 2 hours downhill from there to the Basin.......if you have to take on water there, you have grossly misplanned.

But...caching water at Homer Wilson is easy breezy
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 06:59:43 PM »
Our recent trip to the High Chisos and depending on found water was a revelation.

So, on the the OML...

Water at the Boot Pipe
Water at Juniper Spring
Water at Fresno

The problem is (as far as I can tell) there's nothing past Homer Wilson (going the traditional route) unless you hump up and over Colima and back to the pipe at Boot Spring.

Am I seeing this correctly???

Maybe upper Cattail....that has to be closer to the trail than Boot. However,  since it's only about 2 hours downhill from there to the Basin.......if you have to take on water there, you have grossly misplanned.

But...caching water at Homer Wilson is easy breezy

My point exactly.
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 08:12:15 PM »
I would at water in the pools/tinajas up Boot Canyon from the spring. 

The first time we did the OML we went up Laguna and then the last day we came up Blue Creek, crossed over Colima to Boot for more water then down Pinnacles.  Of course in 1973 there were no Bear Boxes to stash water in at Homer Wilson, much less Juniper canyon.  We carried enough water for the first day and then got water first night at Boot, some more at Upper Juniper, got water at Fresno, filled up with enough at the small spring below the Smoky/Dodson junction to get back up to Boot the 4th day.  We totally depended on found water but then the rangers then would tell you accurately what the water situation was, more than one way to skin a cat as my mother used to say.
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 09:58:35 PM »
Like I said, our recent trip was a revelation (we are slow to learn I guess).

No more humping multi-gallons for us.

The experience of sitting at the Boot pipe and letting the water trickle through our home-made system was very relaxing.

The water tasted great.

What's not to like?
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 10:48:04 PM »
Like I said, our recent trip was a revelation (we are slow to learn I guess).

No more humping multi-gallons for us.

The experience of sitting at the Boot pipe and letting the water trickle through our home-made system was very relaxing.

The water tasted great.

What's not to like?

That pipe is not near as reliable as the recent posts would make it seem.  It's pretty "iffy" from about November thru Spring. It is very dependent on relatively recent rain
The pools upstream may hold water for awhile after the pipe quits, but I've hiked that canyon when it's been a dry bone.

Don't be fooled by the summer rain magic.....
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2016, 09:09:34 AM »
Just for info sake, I would include Adler spring as reliable as Fresno.  Not a lot of people go by this spring so it is really only an "uneducated" guess, but I have never seen it dry, and it appears that the same rock formation that pushes water up for Fresno creek spring, is the same rock making this spring.  Just one drainage east of Fresno drainage.  It is a great spring to use if you do the outer - outer mountain loop and are heading over to Dominquez on day two, or traveling counter-clockwise and need water to get up Juniper (if you can't make a drop at Juniper trail head).

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I've never seen spring water in Blue Creek either, just left over rain water.  There is that rain catchment behind Homer Wilson house with some stuff that once was water, but you are going to have to be a real thirsty man to hit that brown stuff.
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2016, 10:38:04 AM »
Like I said, our recent trip was a revelation (we are slow to learn I guess).

No more humping multi-gallons for us.

The experience of sitting at the Boot pipe and letting the water trickle through our home-made system was very relaxing.

The water tasted great.

What's not to like?

That pipe is not near as reliable as the recent posts would make it seem.  It's pretty "iffy" from about November thru Spring. It is very dependent on relatively recent rain
The pools upstream may hold water for awhile after the pipe quits, but I've hiked that canyon when it's been a dry bone.

Don't be fooled by the summer rain magic.....

So August is really the magic time
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2016, 11:17:04 AM »
Like I said, our recent trip was a revelation (we are slow to learn I guess).

No more humping multi-gallons for us.

The experience of sitting at the Boot pipe and letting the water trickle through our home-made system was very relaxing.

The water tasted great.

What's not to like?

That pipe is not near as reliable as the recent posts would make it seem.  It's pretty "iffy" from about November thru Spring. It is very dependent on relatively recent rain
The pools upstream may hold water for awhile after the pipe quits, but I've hiked that canyon when it's been a dry bone.

Don't be fooled by the summer rain magic.....

So August is really the magic time

January - April = Dry
Late June-Sept = Rainy Season
July-August=Peak historical rainfall

Every year can be different, but "No more humping multi-gallons for us", is wishful thinking.

That being said, RIGHT NOW would be an ideal time not to hump much water up the hill!
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Re: "Found Water"
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2016, 01:12:12 PM »
Like I said, our recent trip was a revelation (we are slow to learn I guess).

No more humping multi-gallons for us.

The experience of sitting at the Boot pipe and letting the water trickle through our home-made system was very relaxing.

The water tasted great.

What's not to like?

That pipe is not near as reliable as the recent posts would make it seem.  It's pretty "iffy" from about November thru Spring. It is very dependent on relatively recent rain
The pools upstream may hold water for awhile after the pipe quits, but I've hiked that canyon when it's been a dry bone.

Don't be fooled by the summer rain magic.....

So August is really the magic time

January - April = Dry
Late June-Sept = Rainy Season
July-August=Peak historical rainfall

Every year can be different, but "No more humping multi-gallons for us", is wishful thinking.

That being said, RIGHT NOW would be an ideal time not to hump much water up the hill!

And another thing...

The water out of the Boot pipe tasted great
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

 


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