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Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions

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Offline steelfrog

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2013, 03:17:42 PM »
So, where do you want to die?  In an antiseptic white hotel room with tubes sticking out of you, half-addled on pain meds?

BB is very much a place for old men...

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Offline elhombre

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2013, 03:51:37 PM »
So, where do you want to die?  In an antiseptic white hotel room with tubes sticking out of you, half-addled on pain meds?

BB is very much a place for old men...

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Offline Reece

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2013, 04:27:11 PM »
I've often thought it would be a wonderful place to die. I've even wondered if some old men might even go there seeking a final resting place. "Missing Elderly" Last seen in a white Jeep.

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Offline dprather

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2013, 10:02:11 PM »
I'm not interested in leaving the party any time soon, but enjoying the last round in Big Bend (if not too troublesome for the SaR folks) would be just about right, especially compared to hospital rooms, nursing homes, or bothering my kids with a slow, sickly decline.

Even my wife has sensed a Big Bend death wish in me.  Hummmm - maybe that's why she doesn't object to my BIBE trips!!!!
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Offline dprather

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2013, 10:18:14 PM »
No place for old men - hardly (said with a sneering laugh).

I am certain that my 30-something sons are still in too much of a hurry to experience a solid Big Bend "get it."

I am grateful that my old man years have given me a taste for the finer things in life: the Santa Elanas at dusk, a Mexican coke in Boquillas, a cold morning wake-up in the High Chisos, views into another country...
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2013, 09:50:14 AM »
So, where do you want to die?  In an antiseptic white hotel room with tubes sticking out of you, half-addled on pain meds?

My father died in the hospital in 1970 hooked up to all the technology that 1970 medicine had to offer. I think it took several weeks if I remember correctly. I don't know how I will go out, but if I have any control, when I cross the bar it won't be that way. Big Bend, outdoors, under the sun, I can think of worse fates.


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Offline Quatro

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2013, 10:16:25 AM »
An interesting turn.  This thread seems to have evolved from "how not to die in the desert" to "maybe BIBE isn't a bad way to go out".  Says the man with a headstone as his avatar.
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Offline homerboy2u

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2013, 10:28:25 AM »
Beaten by Quatro, on the comment....Thank you for saying it first. :eusa_clap:

 But let us leave behind the death wishes in Big Bend and life batteries countdowns...save those for New Years Day. If you all can.

 One thing we all have are smartphones and tablets....at least, the newer generations. Check out these apps for your Android´s ecosystems:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidtrainer.survive

  This is a great application. I have it on my phone. You get caught up in traffic, have some time in the office, get bored at home or day dream of a Gringo Honeymoon...just tap your phone and learn something new for you.

 Have more time on your hands?...get the book:

https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Department_of_the_Army_U_S_Army_Survival_Manual?id=2MktAgAAQBAJ

One thing that works for me...make some benchmarks when hiking. As far as your hindsight can see when you turn back, then when it gets out of your way, just step back until you can see it again. Make another benchmark....it is a no biggie, the newbies around you stare at you as Padowans in a Buffet area. It is a great conversational round the fire at night subject...and then you add your "ketchup" over the topic and scare their living daylights of those around you.

 Their minds a re going at least 150 MPH....remember, no tv's around. It helps them in the long run. Do enjoy.

Homero
Stay thirsty, my friends.

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Offline halljf

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2013, 09:36:26 AM »
If you die there then you will burden the park staff with recovering your body.  BTW, I'll be 60 on my next bday!  Lighten up.

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Offline steelfrog

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2013, 10:55:24 AM »
YOU lighten up.  BB is a playground.  Not ominous or dangerous as you suggest.  Dumbarses be dumbarses wherever they are.  Don't lecture us and treat us like dumbarses.  Most of us are not.  There are a few tho and they make themselves obvious.

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Offline The Scorpion

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2013, 01:04:06 PM »
No matter your skill level and expertise, it is never a bad thing to be reminded of the dangers of Big Bend.
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Offline RichardM

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2013, 07:57:14 PM »
YOU lighten up.  BB is a playground.  Not ominous or dangerous as you suggest.  Dumbarses be dumbarses wherever they are.  Don't lecture us and treat us like dumbarses.  Most of us are not.  There are a few tho and they make themselves obvious.
My irony meter just pegged. Can you guys behave yourselves? At least wait until I'm back from the park.

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Offline dillomaster

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2013, 10:22:00 AM »
Thought I'd share the contents of my "day bag" - this is what I take on any day hike, regardless of how long or short I think it may be.  Ultralight hikers will cringe, but my goal is always to be able to make it through at least one "unexpected" night under the stars. In fact, when backpacking I usually just have this on the top of my pack so I can peel it off and dump my main pack when adventure calls.

Day Bag: 3 liter CamelBak. Leather gloves. Fire starting kit with waterproof matches, flint/steel and few cotton balls. Waterproof notepad and pencil. Compass. Straw style water purifier. A couple energy bars. TP and hygiene items. Pocket knife. Flashlight. Pen. Multi-tool. Survival kit. First aid kit.

Survival Kit: Survival blanket. Rain poncho (can also be used to signal.) Water purification tablets. Anti sting pen (I'm always getting tagged by something.) Signal mirror. Lighter. Chapstick (can also be used as fire starter.) Small flashlight. Survey tape (to leave a trail.) Some cordage. Insect repellent. Sun screen.  Needle and thread (for gear repairs.)

First Aid Kit: EMT shears. Moleskin. Gauze pads. Assorted bandages. Gloves. Iodine and surgical blade. Duct tape. Nail clippers. Tweezers. Hand soap. Extra strength Tylenol. Extra plastic bags. Wilderness/Remote First Aid guide.

Not Shown: I ALWAYS have with me a hat, Storm signal whistle and a compass (with sighting mirror.)  Even when just walking in a city park.

Since most searches are resolved within 24 hours, I suggest that (1) you be prepared to spend the night and (2) make your self easy to find.

Would be interested in others gear - or critique of my selection.  I can say I have used it to spend a couple long and uncomfortable nights, intentionally!  :icon_smile:

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Offline dillomaster

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2013, 10:26:39 AM »
And forgot to mention the CamelBak has a large pocket that I use for trip specific stuff.  So in cold weather I might add an extra layer. If rain is suspect, a proper poncho. If expecting to spend the night, a tarp. Etc.

And ALWAYS a good map of the area!

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Offline steelfrog

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Re: Desert Hiking Safety Suggestions
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2013, 10:29:14 AM »
Umm--Can I assume your machete is in your hand at all times?

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Looks great Dillo!  Thanks for sharing!

 


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