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Offline jimbob

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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2007, 11:56:00 PM »
OK, I messed up in my first real post.  The view in the photo is obviously to the northwest (not NE) towards Dagger Mountain and Persimmon Gap.

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2007, 11:56:37 PM »
I hate  it when the 20 foot contours on a BiBe map doesn't show all the ups and downs.

Al

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2007, 11:58:01 PM »
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I hate  it when the 20 foot contours on a BiBe map doesn't show all the ups and downs.

Al


Aw, heck, Al. If you knew about all of them in advance....where's the fun in that?
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2007, 12:04:59 AM »
Presidio, when carrying a pack with all your stuff and a hiking partner says. let's go up and over that and you say , OK, and you do, only to see another up and over, it is time to have a discussion.

Is it time to re-evaluate one's approach?  YES!

Take out the 7.5' map and take a look at where we're going.

Al

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2007, 12:10:12 AM »
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Presidio, when carrying a pack with all your stuff and a hiking partner says. let's go up and over that and you say , OK, and you do, only to see another up and over, it is time to have a discussion.

Is it time to re-evaluate one's approach?  YES!

Take out the 7.5' map and take a look at where we're going.

Al


I was only joking! It's always uphill in both directions.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2007, 12:23:47 AM »
Life is like a box of chocolates.

NO!!

No I didn't say that.  The shortest distance in Bibe is usually NOT a straight line.

Map reading skills can make all the difference, especially going cross country, not that we can apply those skills on a real-time basis  

Carry what you need until you can get more stuff or don't hike further than the stuff you can haul will sustain you, double back and haul back in, as needed.  Remember you are not out there to be miserable, but to enjoy!


Al

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2007, 02:13:05 PM »
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On the Dog Canyon - unnamed canyon (maybe we should give it a name) - Devil's Den circuit, how was the route finding? Are you mainly following obvious landmarks on the horizon? Did you "cliff-out" anywhere and have to backtrack?


This was my first solo off trail route in Big Bend. I had no problems with route finding. There were also no areas where I cliffed out either. Basically I followed the eastern slope of the range to where "Canon sin Nombre" (the name I gave the canyon) entered Big Brushy Draw and then turned west ascending into Dagger Flat. There are lots of small arroyos you have to cross which drain the ridges and as is typical in the Deadhorse you encounter plenty of lechuguilla, cholla, etc. Landmarks are easy to follow.

In response to the water question, I don't carry a tent or stove when I'm out in the winter, so that allows me to carry extra water without difficulty.

It is imperative that you make sure you are capable with map and compass (or GPS and map as some prefer) before heading off trail.

Overall I would rate the difficulty of the trip as moderate, mainly due to floral hazards, crossing arroyos and descending Devil's Den. I'd love to go back and explore this area again sometime, right now I've unfortunately got an inexhaustable list of other places in the park I still have not visited.

 


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