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Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?

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Offline ech95

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Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« on: March 31, 2017, 01:10:49 PM »
Hi,

I was hiking in a remote area in the Ernst Valley, a beautiful area. I was very careful to avoid brushing against plants, and I tucked my socks in to my pants, but the next morning I found a nymph embedded in my knee, it must have crawled through the holes in my socks. I removed it carefully and disinfected but have been experiencing some joint pain mainly in this leg (not sure if this is psychosomatic). I have European and East coast US strains of Borrelia already, and have mostly recovered from these, however, I fear I may have contracted a new strain.

Has anyone had experience with desert ticks? I read a study in the BB area about borrelia in animals but I'm not sure. Supposedly its rare.


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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2017, 02:21:45 PM »
Hi,

I was hiking in a remote area in the Ernst Valley, a beautiful area. I was very careful to avoid brushing against plants, and I tucked my socks in to my pants, but the next morning I found a nymph embedded in my knee, it must have crawled through the holes in my socks. I removed it carefully and disinfected but have been experiencing some joint pain mainly in this leg (not sure if this is psychosomatic). I have European and East coast US strains of Borrelia already, and have mostly recovered from these, however, I fear I may have contracted a new strain.

Has anyone had experience with desert ticks? I read a study in the BB area about borrelia in animals but I'm not sure. Supposedly its rare.

I've never picked up a tick in Big Bend. (Central Texas Hill country and Western Edwards Plateau - plenty!)

This may help. Looks pretty uncommon in West Texas

https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/stats/index.html
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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2017, 04:24:35 PM »
Agree with BK. Pretty rare in west Texas. Here is another map, in a slightly different format.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lyme_Disease_Risk_Map.gif#/media/File:Lyme_Disease_Risk_Map.gif

Not likely to contract Lyme in Big Bend. But then again, never say never. Funny that you mention Lyme. I've dodged the bullet for years while spending tons of time rooting around in SE forests, but earlier this month while working outside here in Dallas, I found three unexplained bites on my left leg (atypical rashes for Lyme but not totally outside the accepted universe, but no evidence of tick larvae or nymphs) and shortly thereafter I developed fairly serious swelling and pain in that knee that still continues. I'm hoping it's just a coincidentally torn meniscus. But the mind does wonder.......
« Last Edit: March 31, 2017, 05:51:13 PM by House Made of Dawn »
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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2017, 06:18:09 PM »
ech95, not to minimize the seriousness of Borellia. Glad you recovered. I hope you haven't been infected again. Where were you first infected, what strains(s), and what treatment regimen helped you recover?
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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2017, 09:04:37 AM »
Never had any ticks either. 

Plenty of Lechuguilla bites though
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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2017, 09:15:59 AM »
Plenty of Lechuguilla bites though
aka Bleeding Shin Syndrome...  :icon_smile:

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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2017, 07:14:55 AM »

In 40 years of hiking BB, desert, mountain, river valley, I have never had a tick.  Even though I never got one on me it stands to reason that anywhere there are deer, there will be deer ticks.  There was a lady ranger who lived in Panther Junction, had a dog from which she had to remove ticks, question is, where'd the ticks on the dog come from?

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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 09:31:51 PM »
Thanks for the responses. I was actually hiking in the Ernst basin. I reckon I picked it up in  a low grassy area at the low point of the basin. Lots of coyote tracks and scat, probably came from them. Have you guys hiked much off trail, I imagine so, though its hard to brushing against bushes at points. I hiked about 9 miles off trail that day so there was a good bit of exposure. No fever like last time, so I may be okay.

House made of dawn I probably had American strain from birth, picked up a couple more from dogs over the years. But when I really got,sick was after a bite in Europe. This was the first time I ever noticed having a tick in my life. I was in the Italian alps and had no tweezers, tried a lighter but messed up. A month later joint pain and high fever. Months later headaches and memory issues ( I'm 21). Mostly recovered through antibiotics, herbs, antiheleminths, and lots of exercise. I think that after a while they become integrated into the body and cause fewer symptoms, but can gradually lead to als, Alzheimer's, parkisons etc if biofilm and worms are not addressed. They take up residence in deep tissue so can be hard to kill,without good blood flow.

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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2017, 09:18:14 AM »
Thanks for the responses. I was actually hiking in the Ernst basin. I reckon I picked it up in  a low grassy area at the low point of the basin. Lots of coyote tracks and scat, probably came from them. Have you guys hiked much off trail, I imagine so, though its hard to brushing against bushes at points. I hiked about 9 miles off trail that day so there was a good bit of exposure. No fever like last time, so I may be okay.

House made of dawn I probably had American strain from birth, picked up a couple more from dogs over the years. But when I really got,sick was after a bite in Europe. This was the first time I ever noticed having a tick in my life. I was in the Italian alps and had no tweezers, tried a lighter but messed up. A month later joint pain and high fever. Months later headaches and memory issues ( I'm 21). Mostly recovered through antibiotics, herbs, antiheleminths, and lots of exercise. I think that after a while they become integrated into the body and cause fewer symptoms, but can gradually lead to als, Alzheimer's, parkisons etc if biofilm and worms are not addressed. They take up residence in deep tissue so can be hard to kill,without good blood flow.

A good friend of mine contracted Lyme Disease while clearing brush on his farm in east Texas. Bad news, all around. He's been fighting it for almost ten years now. I'm glad you've managed to minimize the effects, ech95, and I hope they stay minimal forever. It's a tough row to hoe. Best of luck!
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Re: Ticks in the Desert: Lyme?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2017, 02:33:29 PM »
An easy trick for removing ticks is Vaseline Petroleum Jelly.  If you gob it on a tick, they can't breathe and after about a minute, you can simply wipe them away with the Vaseline.

 


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