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So I am working on this winters trip plan and am looking for any information on the Ernst Basin trails from say Willow Tank all the way to the Old Ore Terminal. I have see all the posts concerning Old Ore to and from the Bouquillas road but none from Old Ore Terminal north. Anyone walked these? Of course I have Parent's descriptions but any other thoughts, things to check out?As to Carlota tinaja, how reliable is it to have water in December? I know it depends on the year but is it like Ernst tinaja that almost always has water? Do the rangers check it out often enough to have reliable info about it? It would make the water carry much easier if we can get some water from Carlota.As always, looking for your collective wisdom and experience.
... take the canyon to Carlota. Lots'a shade and stuff in the canyon....
Easy to cache water. Enjoy: Z
Only if you have a high clearance vehicle to drive the OOR which I won't have, which is why water in Carlota is important.
Quote from: mule ears on July 29, 2013, 01:19:14 PMOnly if you have a high clearance vehicle to drive the OOR which I won't have, which is why water in Carlota is important.Old Ore Road is not that bad, depending on the car / tires you have you could probably make it back there. I have seen mini vans and other small cars back there, so its not at all impossible, they just state a high clearance vehicle is recommended to cover their ass. There are really only a few spots of concern for low clearance vehicles out to Carlota from where you enter from the park road near the RGV area.
Quote from: Casa Grande on July 18, 2013, 10:27:49 PMYeah, Old Ore is gonna be a bit of a stretch. I would vote against it. Save it for another trip.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 BetaI agree. There is a really rocky stretch on the south end not far from the blacktop. High clearance will save an oil pan or a tranny housing. Still it can probably be done and I have done it in a car before. I would not choose that option again. From Ernst northward is a definite high clearance road over much of the distance.
Yeah, Old Ore is gonna be a bit of a stretch. I would vote against it. Save it for another trip.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
...boredom depends on the eye of the beholder - if you don't like walking through the desert, why go there anyway?... .
"Taste the Tinaja!"
I made it to Ernst Tinaja in my Acura RDX just fine. I may be the ONLY person who has taken an Acura off road (two times in two different Acuras, took my TL down that unpaved road across from Sam Nail). Point is that you can EASILY make it to Ernst Tinaja in a car with sport suspension and "normal" clearance as long as you don't go driving into the rutted parts of the road. The RDX did better on that road and out by Glenn Spring than it did on the washboarded "Old Maverick" road which to me should've been the simplest road to do in a car, rental or otherwise. Now I most definitely would not have been able to make it ALL the way down Old Ore, but the fact is if you are not trying to fly through the road and if you are driving your car so that the high hump is not right in the center of your undercarriage the whole time, you can probably get by without incident. My TL wouldn't have made it comfortably with the 5.7 inches of clearance, but the RDX with only 8 inches did ok. IF you rent a standard or compact SUV, ESP a Ford Escape, you should easily be able to make this journey in the rental without having any issues. Only reason I'm chipping in for the car alternative is because you are going in December. While you will likely be fine with weather/temps/etc, don't forget that you can be lulled into dehydration in cooler temps possibly more easily than when it is warmer outside.
That and though you could filter water from Ernst, I've heard of plenty of dead animals (most recently a deer) floating in that tinaja in particular when they fell in while getting a drink. I'm down for filtering, but maybe not so much when I know bones and meat might be somewhere beneath the surface adding to that fresh tinaja taste that can only be had from slowly decomposing flesh and bones. Then again, that might add to the adventure! "Taste the Tinaja!"
Quote from: stingrey on August 10, 2013, 12:03:45 PM"Taste the Tinaja!" I think we need a new bumper sticker
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