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Question on Banta Shutin

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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2018, 09:06:28 AM »
It's a warm hike this time of year but once you make it to the shut in it will be shady and relatively cool especially if the spring is flowing down the shut in.   My preferred route is from Roys Peak Campsite but this requires driving ~1 hour on a rocky high-clearance road from the North or even longer and rougher from the South.

A shorter route is Estufa Canyon and you are on-trail and it's well cairned but not as pretty or scenic as the longer route from Roy's Peak.    You can always keep going upstream from the Shut in and enjoy some of the spectacular geology if you come in from the Estufa Route.

If you (or anyone else) makes it to Banta Shut In please report back on the water situation.   Also note that ~15 years ago I found and removed some illegal alien trash from the shut in area (like big cans of Salmon with Mexican Packaging Labels and clothing items etc).    If you see anything like this please pack it out.   TWWG
Will do.
Seems like a logical route for an illegal to possibly sneak through from the Big River and eventually catch their ride along the Old Ore road.

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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2018, 11:40:31 AM »
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Seems like a logical route for an illegal to possibly sneak through from the Big River and eventually catch their ride along the Old Ore road.

The numerous 'artifacts' up and down TC bear this out.  The NPS should consider designating it a "cultural heritage migration wilderness area"  :vomit:
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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2018, 12:03:32 PM »
The NPS should consider designating it a "cultural heritage migration wilderness area"  :vomit:

Perish the thought. The NPS has "designated" too much already.
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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2018, 10:09:56 AM »


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Seems like a logical route for an illegal to possibly sneak through from the Big River and eventually catch their ride along the Old Ore road.

The NPS should consider designating it a "cultural heritage migration wilderness area"  :vomit:

Lol.

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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2018, 05:29:46 PM »
Wednesday I hiked from K-Bar to Banta Shutin. Weather had cooled way down overnight. Ten minutes into it, light rain began falling and I put on rain jacket and pack cover. Fifteen minutes later I took the jacket off as the front blew through and hints of blue began appearing in the sky. Day turned out great with strong cooling winds more or less out of the north. At the Shutin there were three large deep pools of water and one smaller one. Managed to climb around the middle pool and that's when it appeared up ahead, the crazy black rock section. So very cool. Hiked through that and out of the Shutin and then returned to the upper pool to rest and collect a liter of water. Found my exit cairn in Tornillo creek and made my turn up Estufa Canyon. Hiked in all 17.5 miles and was gone 9-1/2 hours. A great hike and pretty ideal weather made it possible. Love that crazy black rock...

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« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 09:19:15 PM by Flash »

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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2018, 07:53:48 PM »
Great report Flash!  Sounds like you hit the weather just right.  That black rock is really something different.  Was there no water running or trickling down from above the black rock?
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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2018, 07:56:08 PM »
That's a long day hike! Congrats on making it to Banta

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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2018, 08:26:31 PM »
Well done, Flash!  That's a major hike, right there. And a pretty quick turn-around from first question to answer-via-boots-on-the-ground. What was the water situation in/around the Shut-In?
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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2018, 09:21:54 PM »
They don’t call him “Flash” for nothing.


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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2018, 10:18:53 PM »
Quite a hike !  Any pictures ?  Any "artifacts" ?

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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2018, 07:24:53 AM »
Nice!   I wanna see!

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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2018, 07:09:52 PM »


Was there no water running or trickling down from above the black rock?
No water immediately above the black rock and none until the L-shaped upper pool that I had to rock climb around on the east side. There was water trickling through fissures between middle and lower of the three pools. Levels in the pools was clearly about 18" below the persistent high water mark. Still we are speaking of easily thousands of gallons remaining. A lower bone dry pool was at least 12' deep at lowest point. Remarkable place.


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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2018, 07:12:00 PM »


What was the water situation in/around the Shut-In?
Thanks. Pretty good I'd say. Lots of potential campsites throughout the Shutin.



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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2018, 07:14:01 PM »


They don’t call him “Flash” for nothing.
Ha ha! Thanks, Reece!



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Re: Question on Banta Shutin
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2018, 07:18:38 PM »
Quite a hike !  Any pictures ?  Any "artifacts" ?
Pictures later. Hold me to it. Two artifacts: An empty Gatorade bottle and some old wadded up boxer shorts. That was it even though I had my spidey senses on full power and was looking at any and all sign.

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