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The Banta Shutin

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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2008, 10:42:18 PM »
I'm sold!  This fall I might set up camp at Roy's Peak Vista and blaze a trail to the Banta Shut-In.   Has anyone here done that?

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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 10:48:50 PM »
I'm sold!  This fall I might set up camp at Roy's Peak Vista and blaze a trail to the Banta Shut-In.   Has anyone here done that?


BenTheGrate posted a report starting at Roy's Peak Vista

http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/el-salon/banta-shut-in-from-roys-peak-vista-trip-report-jan-2008-t5125.0.html;msg48416

That looks like the way to go. If you can have a second vehicle at K-Bar, that would make an interesting trip
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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2008, 06:42:10 AM »
I'm sold!  This fall I might set up camp at Roy's Peak Vista and blaze a trail to the Banta Shut-In.   Has anyone here done that?

I've come in from the Telephone Canyon site and it is also fairly easy walk/route, there is even a social trail in places.  It took us about 2.5 hrs, with packs, to the Shut-In.
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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2008, 09:50:24 AM »


BenTheGrate posted a report starting at Roy's Peak Vista


Thanks, that's a fantastic trip report.  Looks like an amazing hike too.  This will definitely be on my short list for the next cool-weather hike. 

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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2008, 06:52:02 AM »
I've come in from the Telephone Canyon site and it is also fairly easy walk/route, there is even a social trail in places.  It took us about 2.5 hrs, with packs, to the Shut-In.

Here is the view headed down the drainage that comes into Tornillo Creek just above the Shut-In   This was the first running water we saw in 3 days of traversing the eastern side of the park.  It is about three quarters of a mile up from Tornillo creek.

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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2008, 07:07:35 AM »
How about posting a link to the thread with your trip report in it Mule Ears?
If I remember correctly you posted a trip report of your hike through Strawhouse Canyon through Banta Shut-In and over to Juniper Canyon and The Basin?   I could be getting it mixed up with someone else's.
I have been to the shut-in from Estufa, Roys Peak, McKinney, and Fossil Bone and I like the route from Roys Peak the best because the arroyo between Roys Peak and Tornillo is interesting hiking and you can make a lot better time along the sandy bottom of Tornillo Creek than you can along the cobble and boulder-strewn Estufa Canyon.  But they are all good and Banta is a sight to behold and an excellent place to cool off in the deep shade next to the running pools of cold clear water.  The small fish (Tornillo  Creek snail darters I think) in the pools of water are very colorful when you see them up close (esp the males) and if you rub your hands over some of the wet slickrock you will dislodge small black fly larvae and the fish will come right up next to you to eat them and you can see them up close.   If you go to Banta please bring along an extra trash bag and pack out any trash you find at the shut-in.  I frequently find half-buried or hidden trash and pack out 1/4 of a backpack full or more every trip.  I always think to myself that dozens (perhaps hundreds) of hikers have been to this wonderful spot and seen the litter strewn about and done nothing - shame on them!.. TWWG

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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2008, 06:48:29 PM »
How about posting a link to the thread with your trip report in it Mule Ears?
If I remember correctly you posted a trip report of your hike through Strawhouse Canyon through Banta Shut-In and over to Juniper Canyon and The Basin?   I could be getting it mixed up with someone else's.

That was me.  No trip report on it though just mention of it in other threads.  I figured since it was Dec. '04 it wasn't current enough.  If I have time I will post a readers digest version of it, just for the record.  When are we going to hear about your latest trip to the Bend?

If you go to Banta please bring along an extra trash bag and pack out any trash you find at the shut-in.  I frequently find half-buried or hidden trash and pack out 1/4 of a backpack full or more every trip.  I always think to myself that dozens (perhaps hundreds) of hikers have been to this wonderful spot and seen the litter strewn about and done nothing - shame on them!.. TWWG
I remember you talking about the trash and maybe you had just been there but there wasn't can or bag one when we were there, I looked.
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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2008, 07:13:14 AM »
My latest trip to the Bend (last month) was with a newbie so we didn't do anything too unusual.  Backpacked the South Rim for 2 nights, hiked the window, went to the Hot Springs, did some great car camping in The Basin Campground with a couple others and we got to meet webmaster Eric before he left the Park for good.   Also took a day canoe trip up Santa Elena Canyon but the water was so low we would have been better off just wading it.   It was the newbies first trip and I wanted to make sure we hit all the highlights without making it a death-march across the desert.  Conditions are dangerously dry right now and many of the more reliable springs and tinajas are going dry.   Even some of the oaks in the high Chisos are not leafing out and if it doesn't rain enough this summer there will probably be another large bear die-off this year.

Back on topic - Three of the 4 times I have been to Banta I have found and packed out considerable illegal-alien related trash.   These trips were 2-5 years apart so the accumulation rate is really low but they often try to hide their trash in the sand or under rock ledges along Tornillo Creek upstream from the shut-in.     The sand bar on the upstream entrance to the shut-in and the large rock overhang on the West Bank of Tornillo right where the cut-off arroyo to Roy's Peak Vista joins Tornillo are always rich sources of illegal alien trash.   I have also found some near Cottonwood Springs a bit further North on Tornillo.  Typical hidden trash includes empty cans (salmon, vienna sausages, sardines, etc..) with Mexican packaging labels, clothing items, shoes, empty cigarette packages of brands not sold in the USA like "Pacifica" and empty plastic jugs (esp. Fresca bottles).   I think I have a photo posted in my album on BigBendPhotos.com of some of the typical trash found at Banta.    The illegals cross at the Hot Springs and follow the drainage all the way (~25 miles) to Fossil Bone but then what do they do?   If they wanted to meet a driver they could do it at Hot Springs or the Tornillo Bridge and save a lot of hiking.   My theory is they don't know where they are going, don't have a map, and think they are going to walk up to some nearby ranch house and look for work.   Either that or they think they are going to walk all the way to Marathon and hop a train or something?   This theory is partially supported by the fact that the rangers and BP sometimes find them "giving up" on the roads both in the Park and nearby... TWWG

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Re: The Banta Shutin
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2008, 03:28:57 PM »
and we got to meet webmaster Eric before he left the Park for good.   

Man I am sorry to hear that Eric is leaving.  I had hoped to meet him on my next trip. :icon_cry:
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