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Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop

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Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« on: February 02, 2013, 01:36:49 PM »
Got out there with a friend to hit the outer- outer mountain loop in a clockwise direction.  Found good water and thought I would pass it on.

Boot spring is flowing from the pipe, and the creek is moving water between the pools.

Upper Juniper is wet but the water is not flowing down the hill on the surface below the rock.  We did get a few quarts.

Map time with markers
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Spring A was flowing quite nicely for at least 3 turns in the creekbed
Spring B was also good to go.
Spring C  " Elf Spring" was quite tasty and was flowing around the corner
Spring D  "Double Spring"  This one was running better that any I have seen out there  besides Fresno.
Spring E  was just wet, no water to pump
Spring F was very weak.  3 pools down stream from where the water usually comes out.  We took a liter each but, it was funky.

No pictures to show because Cookie will not let me have the camera.     :eusa_snooty:

I have tried to learn the spring names so if some of you map guru's can
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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 02:07:29 PM »
Thanks for the water info!  :great:

Here are my best guesses based on the spring data I have:

A = Adler
B = Zapata Tuerto
C = Elf
D = Double
E = Mano Abaja
F = Witch

What were the dates of your trip?  :eusa_think:

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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 05:43:20 PM »
The magic of the internet..... Thanks Richard and Flash.  We started last weekend and finished up 2 days ago.  Boot Spring was seen on our way down from the rim on 1/31.  We were out for 5 nights and 6 days.
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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 07:21:21 PM »
That was a long haul between Double Springs and the Homer Wilson ranch with only a liter of funky water in between.  I'll bet your water cache at the ranch tasted really good.

Approximately where were you camping spots?
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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 08:12:44 PM »
Our first night we made it all the way to approx. 45 minutes before Juniper Canyon TH.  Next morning, stopped at Alder spring and filled up with just enough water knowing we would make it by Elf that late afternoon.  2nd night was near the saddle between ET trail and Double spring, north of Elephant Tusk mountain.  Filled all the way up with water the next morning from Double spring and made it to a campsite at the intersection where the off trail walking and Smokey Creek trail meet up.  This site is south of Witch spring by about 30 minutes.  Next morning, pulled the 2 liters from Witch spring as insurance and got to our stash at Homer Wilson.  Spent the 4th night at Cedar Springs (very cold and windy).  Last full day, walked up Blue Creek and over to Boot Spring for another gallon or so before staying the last night at SE3.

Seeing how I didn't have a camera, I didn't think a trip report would be very intresting to read without some eye candy.  It was a hell of a hump, and is the biggest hike to date for me anywhere or any previous time. 

The best part of the trip was sitting on the rim the last night for 2 reasons.  First, my hiking friend had only been out to BB once before and when I pointed to where we had been/traveled, he didn't believe it.  I mean, he didn't believe it.  Second, that last night the wind had slowed down a little and the humidity level was down to nothing.  I could see farther into Mexico than I ever had before.  I have been up there around 6-8 times by now and it was truely a treat.  The tops of the mountains to the South were bright , I believe, due to the earth's tilt for the wintertime, and this make the most distant objects brighter and easier to see.  God is great!

Another first is that someone opened up my stash bag at Homer Wilson, drank some of my whiskey I left wrapped up in a clean pair of underwear, then topped off the bottle with free water from the same bear box.  Left the second container alone, and made it obvious that it occured by the now difference in color.   >:(

Well, I guess I just wrote a TR.   :eusa_dance: This is the kind of trip report you get when Cookie isn't along to do the job right, but we all have our strong points.

 Big Bend seems to be getting smaller by the trip.
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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2013, 08:36:58 PM »
Another first is that someone opened up my stash bag at Homer Wilson, drank some of my whiskey I left wrapped up in a clean pair of underwear, then topped off the bottle with free water from the same bear box.  Left the second container alone, and made it obvious that it occured by the now difference in color.   >:(
WTF? Seriously, what kind of person digs through someone's underwear in a stash bag? Maybe next time you'll have to make sure they're dirty instead of clean.

Sorry Cookie didn't trust you with a camera, maybe next time she'll let you take a cheap one.

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Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2013, 09:38:16 PM »
At first I thought you guys were just hiking the OML until I saw the springs on the map and then re-read the title of the thread.  That was a long haul!!
Glad you had nice visibility on the rim.  Hopefully one of these days I can get up there for a pano on a clear day. Great job on the trip, very well done.

Are you absolutely, positively sure someone drank your whiskey?
Makes me reluctant to put things in the bear boxes..

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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 10:15:23 PM »
Cookie offered up the camera, but I just am not use to using it or trying to take care of it.  You should have seen my Ritz cracker dust by day 4.

Who knows what happened with my stash.  All I know is that the two containers were different shades of dark AND the lighter color one didn't have the bite or effect the darker one had.  They were all the same when I packaged them up at home........Maybe one-day old underwear is the ticket for a line of defense.  At least it would still have one good side left for use.    :great:
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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2013, 07:16:43 PM »
...It was a hell of a hump, and is the biggest hike to date for me anywhere or any previous time...

 Big Bend seems to be getting smaller by the trip.

That was a hump, well done!  It is too bad about the camera but I can see it in my head for sure.  I don't know if it is getting smaller with each trip but it certainly feels less intimidating and more familiar with each time across it.

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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 06:55:46 AM »
Thanks for the report and the spring locations.   
Saw you on the way down Pinnacles and forgot the locations of the springs we talked about!


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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 11:14:45 AM »

Stone tool?  Oct 2012 by Superhomer670, on Flickr

Awesome info!  I admire the hikes you guys get into!  I like reports of couples getting deep into it.  Sandi and I are still progressing, but we are going for more.

Our Plan B (if the Mesa is too hot) for our big hike on our upcoming trip (Feb 18-28) is to hike to the Waterworks (Skip and Jump) from the Dodson TH.  If we do this hike, the plan is to descend the arroyo where marker A is on the map. Coming out we will hit the ET trail and hike south a bit more for a look around. If we are up for it, we are thinking making a roundabout hike back to the truck.

This info is right on time for us right now.  I think it may just be too hot on the Mesa...
« Last Edit: February 04, 2013, 11:23:07 AM by Homer67 »
Ah Big Bend, we will soon return to reacquaint ourselves in our ritual of blood, exhaustion and dehydration. How can we resist the temptation to strip ourselves of the maladies of civilization?

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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 09:52:54 PM »
What kind of person messes with another man's whiskey????   >:(

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Re: Spring report for Outer - Outer Mountain Loop
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2013, 12:05:11 PM »
Thank you for posting this report. One of my backup routes for my March trip would mainly be in S05. This is info helps. The years I did trips in Big Bend 1990 to 1994 were excellent years for water, which does not seem to be the case right now.

Moderator Note: followup discussion of trail suggestions has been moved to http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/hiking-the-desert/dodson-to-elephant-tusk-questions/
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