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Offline mule ears

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 12:35:33 PM »
I would not describe it as flowing... maybe "trickling"..  I filtered a gallon and half.  It was great.  I posted a picture in the gallery.

Thanks for the water update.  Got anymore trip report for us?   :eusa_whistle: 
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 01:49:42 PM »
It was a fairly fast trip, but very enjoyable...

Departed from Plano, TX early Thursday morning... I decided in route to stay in Terlingua first night.  (I'd never been before, so thought I would try it).  I arrived 3:30pm, check out the community, and decided to stay at the El Dorado.  They were very nice.  Soon after, I entered the Park, paid fee, drove to Panther Junction, got permit, and cached water at Homer Wilson just as the sun was going down.  Returned to El Dorado, where I had dinner in their restaurant.  There were several locals in their bar.

Friday... Up early and off to Basin.  On the trail at 8:40am.  Temps started out in the 40's, but seemed to warm up quickly.  Not a cloud in the sky.  Made my way up Pinnacles, pausing to take pictures of the Window view from time to time.  I visited with several day hikers going to either the South Rim or Emory Peak.  I did visit with a couple of south rim campers who showed pictures of a black bear they saw on the Blue Creek Trail coming up.

I made my way down Juniper and set up camp about a mile and half from the Dodson Trail head..  It was early with a lot of daylight left.  My Gps register right at 10 miles traveled.  I am really glad I stopped in Alpine to pick up the Sun Screen I forgot... I re applied  multiple times.  That night I experienced the most beautiful starry night I have ever seen!  Also, very mild night temperature wise...

Saturday... Up with the sun and onward to the Dodson trail... I made a weak attempt to locate the Dodson Spring (didn't go up enough), but decided to head to Fresno as I knew there was water there and I was very low having consumed a lot with the warm temps.  Water was just below the junction and I shed my shirt to let it dry from the perspiration, while I filtered and filled my canteens.  A Cliff Bar, some jerky, and trail mix was my lunch sitting on the rock shore of the creek.
Confident with full canteens (1 1/2 gal), I headed west.  I set up camp beyond the Smokey Creek Trail (2.2 miles GPS miles from Homer Wilson)  My gps read 20 miles cumulative.  Another mild beautiful night.

Sunday...  My original plan was 4 days and three nights with my third night in the Blue Creek Zone before assending Blue Creek back to the Basin.  This was based on my unsuccessful attempt 2 years ago. (Physically whipped, I walked out at Homer Wilson and hitched a ride back to the Basin).  I decided to play it by ear... if I was well into the Blue Creek open zone before 1:00pm and felt good, then I would continue on and finish.  In any event, I made good time, while still stopping to take many pictures and able to appreciate the beauty of the park.  I was back to my vehicle in the Basin by 3:30pm.  It was tough climbing up Blue Creek, but I got rejuvenated when I looked at my altimeter and it read 6500', I knew I had it made then... 250' more was nothing.

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 10:27:41 PM »
I would not describe it as flowing... maybe "trickling"..  I filtered a gallon and half.  It was great.  I posted a picture in the gallery.

Thank you! 

TomJ
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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2011, 05:53:24 AM »
Great report.  That was some motoring up Blue Creek to the basin.  I am impressed. 

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2011, 06:31:10 AM »
As of the week of November 16, 2011 here is the water report ground-truthed in the field.

Upper Juniper Springs = flowing reliably at a rate of ~2 Gallons/Hour, this is ~half the normal flow but still reliable. 
Dominquez Springs = flowing reliably at a rate of 2-4 Gallons/Hour, first water about 100 yards above the dam, this is about 25% of the normal flow but still reliable.   Seems to have better flow in the mornings than in the afternoons - possibly due to tidal effects of the moon? 
Fisk Canyon - All Springs are dry even the normally reliable one's.  One small seep exists on the route over to E. Tusk on the North side of Dominquez Mtn but the flow rate is low ~1/2 GPH and it's unreliable.

Overall very dry conditions and most unnamed springs are dry,  named springs have much lower flow than normal so caution should be used when trip planning.
I found on this trip that using "Nuni"  Electrolyte Tablets in my camelback cut my water consumption by ~30% so that's a good new idea (at least for me).  TWWG

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2011, 10:54:10 AM »
There were pools below the spring, just south of the Dodson on the 12 at Fresno; I could discern some water in the growth at the spring; it would probably have been easy to filter from there. 

Man, the OML (our version of it --- Dodson, Blue Creek, South Rim, SE Rim, back and out Boot Canyon then down Juniper to our truck at the Dodson/Juniper Canyon trailhead) was simply wonderful!  I have a trip report in the works with some photos and video, but give me a little time and I will get this together. It takes so dang long to upload even a short video!
Ah Big Bend, we will soon return to reacquaint ourselves in our ritual of blood, exhaustion and dehydration. How can we resist the temptation to strip ourselves of the maladies of civilization?

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2011, 02:30:20 PM »
We will wait in glorious anticipation. 

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2011, 08:57:35 AM »
TomJ: Did a similar hike last Christmas. Check out my trip report and .gpx points:

http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/hiking-the-desert/elephant-tusk-to-smoky-creek/

http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/your-trip-reports/hwgtfisk-canyongtelephant-tusk-water!/

It was a phenomenal hike!! You will have a blast.

Ran into lots of water along the way, but this year will definitely be a different story.

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2011, 12:54:45 PM »
TomJ: Did a similar hike last Christmas. Check out my trip report and .gpx points:

http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/hiking-the-desert/elephant-tusk-to-smoky-creek/

http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/your-trip-reports/hwgtfisk-canyongtelephant-tusk-water!/

It was a phenomenal hike!! You will have a blast.

Ran into lots of water along the way, but this year will definitely be a different story.

W.O.S. it was your trip report that inspired my plans. Thank you!
-tomj

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Re: Dominguez - Smoky - Dodson Water
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2011, 07:05:24 PM »
As of the week of November 16, 2011 here is the water report ground-truthed in the field.

Upper Juniper Springs = flowing reliably at a rate of ~2 Gallons/Hour, this is ~half the normal flow but still reliable. 
Dominquez Springs = flowing reliably at a rate of 2-4 Gallons/Hour, first water about 100 yards above the dam, this is about 25% of the normal flow but still reliable.   Seems to have better flow in the mornings than in the afternoons - possibly due to tidal effects of the moon? 
Fisk Canyon - All Springs are dry even the normally reliable one's.  One small seep exists on the route over to E. Tusk on the North side of Dominquez Mtn but the flow rate is low ~1/2 GPH and it's unreliable.

Overall very dry conditions and most unnamed springs are dry,  named springs have much lower flow than normal so caution should be used when trip planning.
I found on this trip that using "Nuni"  Electrolyte Tablets in my camelback cut my water consumption by ~30% so that's a good new idea (at least for me).  TWWG

TWWG - thanks for the comprehensive report!

TomJ

 

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