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Big Bend National Park Q&A => Hiking the Mountains => Topic started by: photopam on October 19, 2018, 02:38:16 PM

Title: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: photopam on October 19, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
Hi!

We are finally heading out to BB next month with the kids!  So excited to take them. 

I am wanting to take my 12 year old to the Rim on an overnight.  I am wondering which trail is better to start up, the Laguna Meadows or Pinnacles?  I have never done the meadow, and it's been 18 years since I climbed Emory. 

The other question :  Would trying to get Emory in on the way out be too much for a 12 year old?  I'm thinking it would be the around the same distance as if we were starting at the basin and did an out an back. 
We hike a lot, and have both been backpacking before.  But this is different terrain than North Texas. 

Thanks for the advice
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: catz on October 19, 2018, 03:20:22 PM

Most people go up Laguna Meadows and down Pinnacles, because LM is not quite as steep.  That said, it really depends on where you want to camp on the rim and whether (and, if so, when) you want to go up Emory Peak.  Personally, I would save Emory for the descent, if then.  The view, despite being from the highest point in the park, is not as good as from the Rim.
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: RichardM on October 19, 2018, 03:30:08 PM
The Pinnacles Trail can be pretty tough if you're not used to gaining lots of elevation. I'd recommend up Laguna Meadows and down Pinnacles, with an optional side trip up Emory if you feel up to it. You can leave the backpacks in the bear box.
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: Imre on October 19, 2018, 09:48:41 PM
I would skip the peak, slow down, and enjoy the hike. What's the hurry? With respect to LM vs. pinnacles, I always go up the pinnacles (albeit for a day hike, not backpacking) but that's in the summer when the pinnacles has a lot more shade.  In November, I'd go up LM, it is indeed a much steadier ascent.
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: jeffblaylock on October 19, 2018, 11:25:38 PM
I always go up Pinnacles if I'm headed to the Rim. It's more scenic. It's in the shade if you hike up in the morning. It's easier to track your progress up to the pass. It's shorter, at least as far as the climb is concerned (albeit steeper).

I usually come down Pinnacles, too. It's more scenic. It's easier to track your progress down from the pass. It's shorter (albeit steeper).

Emory is best saved for the return trip. It's half again the elevation gain up to Pinnacle Pass, and then there's still the elevation gain needed to reach the Rim if that's your destination.
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: photopam on October 20, 2018, 04:05:14 PM
Thanks everyone.   That's what we are thinking,  Laguna to start and Pinnacles to finish with Option of adding Emory.  Good to know about the bear boxes at the base.   


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Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: badknees on October 20, 2018, 07:00:39 PM
I mostly take the LM trail to the South Rim and return via Boot Canyon and the Pinnacles. On the way up, I hate to lose the 200' elevation from the Pinnacles back down to Boot Spring and then have to gain it back again. LM and the SW Rim trails don't lose a lot of elevation during the hike. It's mostly climbing the whole way.

Saying that....I still have to drop down into Boot Canyon before climbing to Pinnacle Pass on the way back, but Boot Canyon is worth it.

Attached is the elevation profile
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: elhombre on October 22, 2018, 09:06:04 AM
Definitely a fan of the Pinnacles going up and down. We have been taking our daughter up Pinnacles route to the rim for backpacking since she was 6. It's only two hours to the Emory trail turnoff. Walk an hour, take a break and have a snack. Walk another hour and take a break looking down at the basin. The walk from Emory trail turn off to Boot spring out to the rim is one of my favorites.


We usually only go up Laguna if we are camping in that area or heading down Blue Creek. Glad you are getting your 12 year old out there! There's nothing better than sitting on the rim watching the shadows change in the Quemadas at sunset. I'll take that over Emory any time.

~Cookie
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: Imre on October 22, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
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It's only two hours to the Emory trail turnoff.
True if you're 30. If you're 60, then maybe, maybe not.
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: VivaTerlingua on October 22, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
I like going up Pinnacles and down LM.  It's easier on the knees to come down LM.  Whichever you decide to do first, do not do LM both ways, Boot Canyon is too pretty to skip.
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: photopam on October 22, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
We will be sure to hit Boot Canyon it sounds like!   :icon_biggrin:

Emory Peak we were thinking of meeting up with the boys and hiking up that with them before heading out.  But, that plan could change. 
As soon as this rain stops, we will start conditioning as best we can.  I can't wait to see the rim sunset and sunrise again!!

Thanks again everyone for the helpful tips!   8)
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: dprather on October 22, 2018, 03:08:30 PM
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It's only two hours to the Emory trail turnoff.
True if you're 30. If you're 60, then maybe, maybe not.

I would shout "AMEN!" but I'd start coughing
Title: Re: Basin Overnight to Rim in Nov
Post by: Jalco on October 22, 2018, 06:16:17 PM
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It's only two hours to the Emory trail turnoff.
True if you're 30. If you're 60, then maybe, maybe not.

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