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Offline bourgm

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Boot Canyon
« on: November 12, 2010, 09:38:28 AM »
Question..  Last time I went to Big Bend I couldn't find the water source at Boot Canyon.

From the place where the trail crosses the creek, where is the pipe? Any photos?

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 09:41:27 AM »
Question..  Last time I went to Big Bend I couldn't find the water source at Boot Canyon.

From the place where the trail crosses the creek, where is the pipe? Any photos?

It is in the canyon about 30' below the cabin. Follow the path on the south side of the cabin.
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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 09:57:45 AM »
Question..  Last time I went to Big Bend I couldn't find the water source at Boot Canyon.

From the place where the trail crosses the creek, where is the pipe? Any photos?

It is in the canyon about 30' below the cabin. Follow the path on the south side of the cabin.
And remember, just because the water is coming out of a pipe doesn't mean it's ready to drink. Filter/purify or risk the consequences! :icon_eek:
If the pipe doesn't have any water flow, you can still probably find pools of water up the canyon.

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 12:19:49 PM »
Now you're starting to worry me a little. I'm going to arrive at Boot Creek with dry water bottles in a few days and all of a sudden the water source is in question. Does anyone have the long/lat coordinates of this spring? No one seemed to have them for Upper Juniper...

Come on guys, surely someone has Boot Spring pegged by now. You who know where it is, at least go to Google Earth and take a long/lat reading for me.

If I make it there with my GPS, I'm going to nail some of this stuff down tight.

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 12:58:24 PM »
Reece, the water sources in the desert are always in question, and you should always have a plan for particular sources being dry. With Boot Canyon, that plan can easily be hike down Pinnacles to the Basin and its mannade sources.

Even if the pipe is dry, there is still a likelihood that there is water farther upcanyon in pools along and below the trail.

UJ spring's location has been described in a recent thread, and it's not hard to find if it's running.

In an abundance of caution, you can cache a gallon or more at the JC trailhead, which can get you all the way back to the Basin.

I'd also point out that even fairly recent spring reports are not always reliable. A person on nearly the same route I planned to hike found numerous water sources just two weeks before I got there. We were lucky to find one.
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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 01:49:36 PM »
I know full well that desert springs are intermittent in their flow. That's all the more reason for accurate information like GPS coordinates, wouldn't you say? That's my gripe and someone out there knows.

I'm all for self-reliance. I pack solo. I'll be hiking UP Juniper Canyon from Twisted Shoe. I will have plenty of water at my truck and can always get back there or to the Basin before I die but my 3 days and 2 nights on the trail will be a bomb If I don't have Boot Spring to drink from, that's all. Boot Spring is the only water source in the Chisos that I've seen the National Park will give any credence to. 

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 02:20:23 PM »
Reese are you mad that people aren't giving you this data?

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 02:38:04 PM »
I know full well that desert springs are intermittent in their flow. That's all the more reason for accurate information like GPS coordinates, wouldn't you say? That's my gripe and someone out there knows.

I'm all for self-reliance. I pack solo. I'll be hiking UP Juniper Canyon from Twisted Shoe. I will have plenty of water at my truck and can always get back there or to the Basin before I die but my 3 days and 2 nights on the trail will be a bomb If I don't have Boot Spring to drink from, that's all. Boot Spring is the only water source in the Chisos that I've seen the National Park will give any credence to.

I wouldn't count on ANY water coming out of the pipe this time of year, however there may be some in the pools up-canyon from the spring. Here are the coordinates of  Boot Spring - N29.24170 W103.29708, but if you bet your health and well being on water being available, you will be making a mistake. Boot Spring is NOT reliable after the rainy season.

PS. Boot Spring is on the topo
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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 02:50:01 PM »
That's all I was looking for - someone who had actually been there.
Thanks, that's right where I thought it was.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2010, 02:56:42 PM by Reece »

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 02:54:28 PM »
Question..  Last time I went to Big Bend I couldn't find the water source at Boot Canyon.

From the place where the trail crosses the creek, where is the pipe? Any photos?

Picture of the cabin




And the spring (taken in the summer during the rainy season)

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 02:55:54 PM »
That's all I was looking for.
Thanks

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2010, 02:57:56 PM »
Ha, ha - where to ship the body? That's a piss-poor spring. Now I see why you can't count on it. It looks like it's about to peter out, so to speak, any minute.

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 03:30:11 PM »
I could see a structure in Google Earth but couldn't tell what it was. "The cabin"
- what is it for? I thought maybe I was seeing the composting toilet.

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2010, 05:30:25 PM »
Last time I was there I went up the creek towards the cabin, but must have stopped before then..  lol

I ended up getting water from the puddles (pools), but there was so many bugs that I was a little worried..  Filtered the water and drank it..  Didn't get sick..  The water was a little tented (color) for my taste, but tasted fine.

I was there with my wife and two 12 year olds..  That is as far as we went though.  Stayed in Boot Canyon spots (lots of bears when we were there)..  Started seeing so many bears that we ended up moving spots to a more open one that they couldn't sneak up on us as much.  Two 12 year olds didn't like the idea of waking up with a bear a few feet away from their tent..  go figure..  lol

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Re: Boot Canyon
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2010, 05:51:49 PM »
That's all I was looking for.
Thanks

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Made me laugh.   :eusa_clap:
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