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High Chisos sites closed

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Offline bigcreek

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High Chisos sites closed
« on: April 12, 2011, 04:17:06 PM »
Did this happen today?

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 04:35:41 PM »
Must have happened today.

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High Chisos Backpacking Closure

Due to extreme fire danger in the park, the Superintendent has ordered a temporary closure of all High Chisos backpacking campsites, including the Blue Creek and Lower Juniper Zones.

Day hiking is still allowed, but smoking is banned on all trails.

For further information please call 423-477-1107.

Show's just how dry it is.  They don't want anyone even using a camp stove.  :icon_eek:
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Offline TexasAggieHiker

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 04:54:05 PM »
Yeah, that wasn't there this morning.......

That's going to throw a HUGE curve ball into my plans.  I'm headed that way in a week and a half.

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 06:24:31 PM »
Probably going to be for a long time until there is measurable rain before it reopens.   Don't want it to look like this stunning frightening spooky picture...
http://alpinedailyplanet.typepad.com/alpine-daily-planet/2011/04/remembering-the-night-the-fires-came.html

and seeing as it has not rained in 193 days... if past performance is any indication of future performance... (nice chart)
http://alpinedailyplanet.typepad.com/alpine-daily-planet/2011/04/it-hasnt-rained-in-193-days.html

http://www.nps.gov/bibe/planyourvisit/parkalerts.htm

and based on historical data... http://www.nps.gov/bibe/planyourvisit/weather_averages.htm


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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 06:22:42 AM »
I know it hasn't rained in 6 months which makes it a very intense dry spell but how does this compare to the drought in the 90's?  At least in peoples memories and experiences?

For instance when I was there in Feb. '98 they had been in drought for 7 years and there was still some water in the pools in Boot canyon and Dominguez spring was running but nothing else in Fisk canyon.

In March 2000, it was scary crispy dry and they were talking about closing the Lodge because there was not enough water from Oak spring and they were serving every thing on paper plates.  We went over to the state park and did the Rancherias Loop and all the springs were running fairly well.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 06:34:14 AM »
Not sure what the point of just closing the campsites and not the entire Chisos trail system.  A fire can just as easily be started by a day hiker as by a overnight camper.

If I had plans to be there next week, probably a good idea to move further west to the Guads.

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Offline steelfrog

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 09:27:21 AM »
Or Big Bend Ranch State Park; there is fabulous stuff there.  Call Barrett Durst, the great park manager, and he will hook you up!

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 09:43:57 AM »
Not sure what the point of just closing the campsites and not the entire Chisos trail system.  A fire can just as easily be started by a day hiker as by a overnight camper.
Day hikers aren't as likely to be carrying fire making materials, a stove, or build a campfire.

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 10:18:37 AM »
I guess I don't fit the typical dayhiker profile.  I have been known to carry my MSR Pocket Rocket to heat up water for a Mountain House dinner while on a day hike.  :)

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 10:40:06 AM »
LOL. Yeah, that's probably not typical.  I've seen people headed up the trail with nothing but a 16.9oz water bottle.  Most aren't going to be carrying a stove.

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 11:57:41 AM »
Or Big Bend Ranch State Park; there is fabulous stuff there.  Call Barrett Durst, the great park manager, and he will hook you up!

Virtually every county in Texas is under a fire ban.  I tend to imagine that open fires are also banned at BBRSP, BGWMA, Guadalupe Mountains, etc.   

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Offline dkerr24

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2011, 12:36:09 PM »
Same here in Oklahoma.  They are actually jailing people caught in violation of the burn ban.  Some idiot was out burning leaves in his backyard and was caught by the County Sheriff.

Darin

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2011, 03:09:59 PM »
They weren't banned in BBRSP about a month ago; in fact, they were selling firewood at the Sauceda ranger station; we builkt a giant one at a backcountry site; roasted marshmallows and the whole bit.

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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2011, 03:11:08 PM »
My wife was surprised when I told her I couldn't even fire up a small patio charcoal grill for burgers yesterday.  The news this morning stated that in the last 6 months here in Oklahoma it's the driest it's been since the 1920's.

I really hope the weather pattern changes for BiBe soon.  I'm putting together a trip for our outdoor club here to visit in Oct. 
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Re: High Chisos sites closed
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 03:58:33 PM »
Chisos are a little smoky right now anyway, the smoke from the ginormous Mexico fire is pouring in. I would stick to sheltered places, or at least check the predicted wind direction before planning your excursion for the next couple of weeks (last word was they were hoping to have the Coahuila blazes out by then). I *heard* they got to the del Carmens, but it was so brief and sandwiched between so much other fire news I can't verify that.

The next week is predicted to be quite dangerous for fire hazard, so please keep your eyes on the news before and while traveling. It's so dry, I'm afraid to shuffle my feet.

 


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