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Offline steelfrog

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i need help!
« on: May 27, 2011, 09:20:38 PM »
Ok. I and 6 of the kids kids are in Pecos. We are planning to do the McKitterick Ridge hike.

I did something rare for me and asked them if they want to do that or go to Big Bend. Unanimously they said bb

2 questions:

Is the NE rim closed?  What part of the rim could we dayhike to

Is there a chance of getting a camp spot in the Basin campground?

Many thanks

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Offline jave

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Re: i need help!
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 09:56:37 PM »
Not sure if peregrine protection is in force.  All I know is it is HOT HOT HOT and dry around here but Sunday looks a little cooler and Monday actually pretty good.  Have fun and enjoy the Basin and the rim.  I bet govt spg or kbar or something would be open even if the Basin was full but most people are scared off with temps and fire danger.

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Offline steelfrog

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Re: i need help!
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 10:24:04 PM »
It is Feb to July, but I am unsure which part. I thought maybe we could do part of NE rim?  Boot canyon, etc? 

We would do Casa Grande tomorrow (4 and 7 y.o. Haven't been up there yet) and rim on Sunday

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Offline RichardM

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Re: i need help!
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 10:39:55 PM »
Seasonal Closures
To protect the peregrine falcon, an endangered species, the following areas of the park are closed to all use from February 1 until May 31 each year:

 - The Southeast Rim Trail and a portion of the Northeast Rim Trail from the Boot Canyon/Southeast Rim junction to a point just north of Campsite NE-4.

 - All Southeast Rim campsites as well as Northeast (NE) campsites 4 and 5 are closed during this period. Technical rock climbing on rock faces within ? mile of known peregrine eyries, as posted, will not be allowed between February 1 and May 31.


I'd imagine doing the Pinnacles/Boot Canyon/Colima/Laguna Meadows loop would work for you, with an optional jaunt up Emory.

From http://www.nps.gov/bibe/parknews/peregrine-closures.htm
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January 28, 2011

BIG BEND NATIONAL PARK REINSTATES TEMPORARY CLOSURES FOR
PEREGRINE FALCONS

In August 1999, the Peregrine falcon was removed from the federal endangered species list, a move prompted by the falcon’s comeback from the brink of extinction.  However, throughout Texas there are less than a dozen known nesting pairs and the falcon remains on the state’s endangered species list. 

Federal Endangered Species policy requires that Peregrine populations continue to be monitored.  National Park Service policies require the protection and preservation of all state-listed species and all species of concern, regardless of federal or state classification.  In keeping with this mandate, and to provide the nesting falcons with areas free of human disturbance, Big Bend National Park will again temporarily close or place restrictions on the use of certain park lands.

The areas closed to public entry from February 1 through May 31 are:

•   The Southeast Rim Trail and a portion of the Northeast Rim Trail from the Boot Canyon/Southeast Rim junction to a point just north of Campsite NE-4.

•   All Southeast Rim campsites as well as Northeast (NE) campsites 4 and 5 are closed during this period.

Technical rock climbing on rock faces within ? mile of known peregrine eyries, as posted, will not be allowed between February 1 and July 15.

The park does not plan to close any other areas but restrictions may be modified if Peregrine behavior or nesting sites do not follow traditional trends.

Through the efforts of federal, state and private agencies, the Peregrine has staged a remarkable comeback since it was placed on the federal list in 1970.  Superintendent Bill Wellman remarked, “The small population found in Big Bend National Park and the Rio Grande Wild and Scenic River represents most of the peregrines found in Texas.  We appreciate the public support and cooperation that we continue to have for protecting these remarkable birds."

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Offline Geezer

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Re: i need help!
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 10:41:30 PM »
A neighbor went to BB early this month and camped in Basin. It's all dried up, but they did see a bunch of bears: 3 cubs in a tree and a sow at the downhill end of the new sewage facility. Also another sow and 2 yearlings at same location.

Late one July a friend and I spent several nights at Laguna Meadow and did some day hikes. Temps were high during day, but comfortable at night. That's in the rainy season, though it did not rain on us. Century plants were blooming and each had a hummer or two working it.

Don't know how it would be there now, but there is a good bit of shade around those campsites. A nice hike available down the Cattail drainage.

Geezer

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Offline MilesOfTexas

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 11:07:08 AM »
I was in BIBE last year during Memorial Day weekend.  It was well over 100F down below the Chisos, and the wind felt like a blast furnace.  In addition, those green bear-resistant trash cans will blister you if you aren't careful.

However, I found the Chisos to be very comfortable, and was in the mid to upper 80's.  Because of that, I stayed in the Chisos campground and the night temps were very nice.  I hiked the Lost Mine Peak trail during the day and didn't find it to be too hot at all, so unless it is a lot warmer than last year, I wouldn't see any issue with hiking to the Rim.

I was even able to catch a thunderstorm that weekend:

"I have an excellent profession, but I don't enjoy it near as much as I do when I am in the heart of the wilderness, surrounded by marvelous creations, and efforting to capture what I see and feel so I may share it with others."

-Me 09/12/2011

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Offline Vince T

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Re: i need help!
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2011, 01:48:35 PM »
That picture is awesome!  You won't have any trouble finding a spot in the basin...at least I have never had a problem in June.

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Offline osage2112

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Re: i need help!
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 03:54:30 PM »
Great pic...that's the Big Bend I know and love.

 


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