Relatives around the TransPecos-Del Carmens area.

[Casa Grande]

Homero, You have Big Bend royalty in your blood my friend.....good to know you :D

[mbent]

ay...chihuahua!! He looks like a movie star!!! He was much too good looking to have been pursuing those types along the border...so when was he born?? gosh, yes, there are some stories  there....are you sure that's for real??? great photo! What all do you know about him? How long did he live?? I imagine he was quite a ladies' man too? oh boy..you have some interesting blood there....i would love to hear about that. So did you ever find the place?? You must keep pursuing all of that family history etc....

As far as transposing some or all of the diary, it would be easy...I would love to if there is interest. A lot of the early part of the diary took place out of bibe but it sets the stage for the family's eventual arrival out there and it's amazing stuff....it's no problem to do so (transpose it..as soon as i find it).....Plus, this diary is in the archives in Austin and I am going to Austin next week. I'm hoping that I might find even more of this diary....

Yes, I know that 'Presidio' is a regular on here and a good, informative writer (mysterious, anonymous-at least to me!) but I was still thinking the town Presidio (I thought you were from Presidio)...so I was thinking 'presidio style' was meaning....the way we used to do it back in the day in presidio which would have to be censored on here  ha....but  no mas about that.....so, ok. Now I know that Presidio style is a person's style of writing, not a town and BBC is this chat site and not the BBC as on NPR....us cityfolks have too much input and it causes confusion.

Ok, so let's hear some real stories!

[mbent]

ok, whoops...now i see this thread above w/cool sat photo.. that is really so awesome!

[bdann]

wow!  thanks for bringing this thread back up, I sure don't remember seeing it before.  That is a really cool photo Homero!

[badknees]

El es "Charlie Sheen" de Mexico , con muchas balas!

[mbent]

si muy quapo!

[homerboy2u2]

  ...Yeap!!!. That was my Grandpa, Adolfo Jimenez. man!, this thread is so ancient, i am surprised we can still post on it. I see now, it is not in the Archives Forum no wonder.

 You must understand that he was in his 20's or 30's at the time of the picture, he later in life grew a tummy  , like yours truly and started ,. like everyone else, to grow old. I was 5 years old when he died, he passsed away on February 14th, that's St. Valentine's day BTW.

  He lieved until 1972, passed away at the age of 70 years old, i am trying to remember the name of Randell's Grandfather, i believe, he was a Texas Ranger and i just know they crossed paths on several occassions. My Mother and Sister are on vacation right now, to go over there and scan some pictures for all of you. I have stories of him out the wazoo , but let me get to home and we can pick up this later tonight.

 Charlie Sheen with muchas balas, eh?..... , i bet you just made him laugh , up in heaven.

   Hey folks, please don't tell me i'm the only one here who had relaitves living in the TransPecos-Del Carmens area...the thread is actually called : Relatives, you know. Up load them a.s.a.p., please. I get back to this,later today.

[mule ears]

wow!  thanks for bringing this thread back up, I sure don't remember seeing it before.  That is a really cool photo Homero!

I too somehow missed this way back when, he looks very cool and serious all at the same time, not sure Charlie Sheen, he looks to have more gravitas. 

[homerboy2u2]

My father (R.I.P.) used to tell me that when my grandfather lived with his family in Pico Etereo, which i deduce it had to be a very small ranch operation. Probably a small village with all the hardships of the land. He used to tend  the sheeps and goats the family had at the time. Since times were tough back then when he was not hearding he would ride over to Alpine and work as a Ranch Hand on the local spreads. Soon , providing the time he spent working there he developed an abaility to handle the gun, the pistola and was a good sharp shooter. So my aunts and father used to tell me.

  Anyhow, he was doing ranching work and he met this guy, who happenend to be the local branch officer of the Texas Rangers there.So the story goes. Well they met, became real good friends, this guy was impressed how well he handle the reata and the pistola and invited him to become some sort of a Ranger, i am not quite sure what the term would be,but he left the ranching activity and picked up another gun for the spare holster. He was working from either San Vicente or Boquillas del Carmen, that i don't know. To be honest. But He was the outpost for all the rustlers and bandits, which were a plenty in those days, and he would run  the posses to catch these bad dudes.

  I want to make a point, that my GrandFather went to school until the first grade, because Pancho Villa's men killed their local teacher for not siding with him...not siding to their cause, while they were doing a gun buy from the local gun dealers, either in Alpine or Ft. Stockton. So from then on, it was all hands on for what ever life threw at him while growing up. End of the commercial.

   They all lived there until the late 10's amd later moved out to Muzquiz , where they settled in for quite sometime , not evading one last time Pancho Villa in 1919 where he raided Muzquiz, killed the local Federal Guards, they were 3 assigned to the post and ransacked every single rich home  he could grab money for the cause, the Mexican Revolution.

 My grandfather, his brothers and sisters lived thru that event and told the story to their respective sons and daughters and that is how we got to know of that time in particular. During that raid, which lasted no more than 36 hours, since the Federal forces were organizing themselves to recover Muzquiz from the revolutionaries, he came to know of the small town of Sabinas, Coahuila. Very near fom Nueva Rosita,Coahuila.

 Sabinas some how attracted to him, because there were soap plants from some guy from Ireland, there was an Ice maiking company from a guy from Canada, which the name escapes me and there were nice places to have his army relaxed and call it quits , once and for all. Sabinas is exactly the place where he lay down his arms, securing a safe passage way to Torreon and then on to Chihuahua, where he settled in in Parral and then in the Hacienda Canutillo where they killed him in 1923.Actually he was killed in Parral.




  Now what does this has to do with my grandfather?, ha! nothing much , but one of his sisters met this Lt. Felix ...dang! his last name escapes me and  married my great aunt Maria. Settlerd down in Muzquiz and in the 30's they moved to Nueva Rosita, along with all of the family adn lived until he died. I had the pleasure, the honer of meeting him and he told me some fighting stories which were too complex for me. I was just a little kiddo in the 70's and until much late in life i understood them.





  Up until the very moment of his death , my uncle Felix laying on his death bed. I was there, ok? He was taking his last breaths of life and all of a sudden he sat up straight saluted in the air and said: Todos contados, mi general !!! (all accounted for, general). We were all looking at each other...no one undesrtanding what he was doing and then said: General Arango!!...(remember that was Pancho Villas original last name), ready to move out!..adn then he just died. a single last breath and he just gasped. Who was there to take him over to heaven?, just let your mind run freely. Awsome, if you ask me.

 This story, does no honor with out some pictures....and my Mother, is living the happy life in Ixtapa with her sisters and my sister is spending some vacation time in Bastrop,Tx. I can't get to the pics...dang!!.

 Well it will have to do, until they come back here.

[Al]

Homero, thank for your insight.  This is first time I have heard the other side of Pancho Villa. 

Not that this contributes in any substantive way to your post but. . .

I remember the time my friends and I were in "the" Boquillas bar back in the late 70's or early 80's.  We were the only "Gringos" in the bar.  The bartender pulled out a large "slap stick" from behind the bar that looked like a male virility symbol and started singing, joined in by Mexicans in the bar, a song that extolled the virtues of Pancho Villa and something quite derogatory regarding Gringos and their relationship to Donkeys or Burros . . . if my memory serves me also based on our limited ability to translate. I guess we had forgotten to use deodorant that day.  We took the hint and ordered a bottle of Mescal to go.  Having been there many times before and after with no problem, I don't know what the deal was . . . but it was time to go. 

Al