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« on: February 27, 2007, 01:15:15 pm »

Preliminary Itinerary
March 31 thru April 14 - 2007
Going with a friend and our sons. My friend and his son have never been to BIBE, so I tried to plan a decent overview of the area in what is always not enough time. If it was just me and my son, I would probably do more site specific hikes of duration, but I really want my friend to see as much as we can see. While we are traveling Maverick & Old Ore, we will do it at a leisurely pace, stopping at whatever looks interesting. I'm guessing that we might be hiking or setting up camp in the dark the last few nights in the park, which isn't a problem.

Day 1 - Leave Northern Kentucky
Day 2 - Arrive BIBE afternoon/evening. Stay in Basin campsite No. 41.
Day 3 - Morning - Hike Lost Mine. Evening - Hike Window Trail. Stay in Basin campground.
Day 4 - Hike either Apache Canyon or Cattail Falls. Stay in Basin campground.
Day 5 - Hike Pinnacles to Boot Canyon 3 or 4.
Day 6 - At rim. SW 3 or 4 for night.
Day 7 - Hike Laguna Meadows. If time allows, hike Indian Springs afternoon/evening. Stay Big Bend Motor Lodge.
Day 8 - Closed Canyon, Big Hill. Drive over to the Ranch State Park. Lakiva for beer/dinner. Big Bend Motor Lodge.
Day 9 - Maverick Road. Terlingua Abajo. Santa Elena. Castolon. Stay in Cottonwood.
Day 10 - River Road. Mariscal Mine. Hot Springs. Camp at LaNoria 2.
Day 11 - Ernst Tinaja. Old Ore Road North. Haven't decided on camp site. Maybe Paint Gap 3. I've never been there.
Day 12 - Leave BIBE. Stay in Del Rio. Dinner in Acuna.
Day 13 - Alamo. San Jacinto.
Day 14 - Travel
Day 15 - Back in N.KY.

Any criticisms or suggestions would be welcome.
I'm hoping to run into some of you while we're there.
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 03:30:45 pm »

..to stop and smell the Creosote Bush!
Looks like a pretty full trip and a good overview. Anyone care to wager that this "first trip" wont be their last? I'll give odds.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 04:32:54 pm »

9+ days in Big Bend.  What a deal.

Be sure to take lots of photos.  You'll be going to quite a few places I have never been, but have on my wish list.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 04:56:18 pm »

I'm contemplating just going right now, packing up a few things and heading west.  I'll see you for breakfast at the Basin in the morning.   I'll clear the way for your most excellent upcoming trip.

ROAD TRIP
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 05:17:02 pm »

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I'm contemplating just going right now, packing up a few things and heading west.  I'll see you for breakfast at the Basin in the morning.   I'll clear the way for your most excellent upcoming trip.

ROAD TRIP


 What have i done wrong, Oh Dear GOD?..to see this lucky soul go to gatherings, BiBe, and explore parks at hearts desire :?: ..I will never know cry
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007, 10:47:48 pm »

Back in January  I stayed at Paint Gap no 3. Really didn't care for it. Too close to Paint Gap No. 2. I could hear my neighbors toss and turn all night on their air mattresses.

Think about camping at Paint Gap no. 4 if you have a high clearance vehicle. I hiked thru the Gap and the road was not bad until you got past the no. 4 campsite.

Enjoy!
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2007, 11:51:37 pm »

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Back in January  I stayed at Paint Gap no 3. Really didn't care for it. Too close to Paint Gap No. 2. I could hear my neighbors toss and turn all night on their air mattresses.

Think about camping at Paint Gap no. 4 if you have a high clearance vehicle. I hiked thru the Gap and the road was not bad until you got past the no. 4 campsite.

Enjoy!


PG4 doesn't need high clearance if you can avoid a few medium sized rocks and is MUCH better than PG3. i really liked the site, and it was a short climb away from some great morning views cool



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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2007, 06:13:31 am »

Hey Mick! :D  It's just like ol' Rod Roddy would say....."CAMON DOWN" 8)
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2007, 06:18:56 am »

Since you asked:
- don't try to do Alamo and San Jacinto monument both in one day, they are about 230+ miles apart and both will take 1-2 hours to tour/find/explore.
- don't forget the Starlight for dinner/lunch, La Kiva creeps me out.
- maybe a 1-day raft or canoe trip might be nice to mix things up a bit all hiking might wear people out too fast.
- I would get Colima 1 rather than the BC sites, it's close to the cabin, is a very large site, flat tent area, and is isolated and private.  No view from either place anyway.
- If you get a late start going up to the rim you might spend the first night at LW1 instead of BC/Colima, it's only 1.5-2 hours hike from the Basin and you can water from Upper Cattail below LW3.  PM me if you want more details.
- don't forget to stop and say "Hi" to all the board members that live in the Park or might be in the area at the same time.... TWWG
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2007, 08:06:10 am »

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I could hear my neighbors toss and turn all night on their air mattresses.


Oh, they weren't just tossing and turning..   :P

Sir. Randell has the perfect "answer/comeback" for these situations..., but I doubt he can post it here...  :oops:
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2007, 08:38:56 am »

I agree about PG campsites.  Get PG 4 if possible, PG 1 as second choice.  You may have to put up with a little traffic if you stay at PG 1, but the it's more open:  the views, in particular the sunsets, are much better.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2007, 11:04:41 am »

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La Kiva creeps me out.


My most interesting la Kiva experience was one New Year's Eve.

December 1992...
Itinerary... The 26th.... drove to BIBE from Enid, Oklahoma to DFW to the park 850 miles straight through.  Threw out our sleeping bags on the ground at Dugout Wells at 2:00 AM,

27th  got up at 6:00 to avoid being arrested... breakfast at the Chisos Mtns. Lodge in the Basin, got our permit at 8:00 at PJ.

Drove down to Santa Elena Canyon and did the short dayhike in.  Our backpacking began at the curve in RMSD about three miles south of the Mules Ears overlook.  As we distributed gear we realized that we had no cooking pots!  

We had fifteen people going out for seven days with no way to cook.  We headed over to the Study Butte Store to buy what they might have in the way of pots (which I surmised might not be much) and then sent my friend Steve to the restaurant up by the motel near the junction of 170 and 118 to see if he could borrow a larger pot or two.  I gave him a $20 bill to leave as a deposit if they had any questions.  the rather corpulent woman in the kitchen, wielding a rather impressive looking knife said, "I don't need your money.  You WILL bring this pan back or I will hunt you down and kill you!"  We headed back to the park and got ready to start our trip.

We angled southeast and looped south of the Mules Ears Complex, then headed NE up Smoky Creek, camping due east of Mule Ears.  

28th did a dayhike scrambling over all the weird formations in the Mule Ears area before heading cross-country up a drainage parallel to the Smoky Creek Trail, camping fairly close to the Dodson Trail.  

29th, north to the Dodson then west to a point almost due south of Blue Creek before heading cross-country due west to the Chimneys Trail. We camped just west of the Pena Spring/Black Mesa area.  

30th climbed Pena Mountain and hiked over to Luna's Jacal before heading up Javelina Wash to camp at Tule Spring.

Dec. 31, New Year's Eve 1992.  We did a lengthy cross-country Burro Mesa dayhike.  We started out heading due east from camp, climbing to the top of the mesa.  The morning was spent climbing various high points and meandering towards the old corral.  From the corral we headed north along the east side of the canyon to the two large orange rock amphitheaters.  We rapelled into the Apache Canyon from the east rim before heading back to camp.  Descending the slot canyon due west from the corral we then headed south back to camp.  At 10:00 PM we made it back after about fifteen hours of hiking.  

We all wanted to stay up until midnight, but just couldn't get too excited about playing cards for the next couple of hours.  One thing that we had noticed at the Basin, at PJ and all over Study Butte were fliers for a New Year's Eve party at la Kiva.  A band called the "Sofa Kings" would be playing.  So, at 10:00 PM camped at Tule Spring, having been in the back-country for five days, the adults and older kids decided to hike out and go to la Kiva to bring in the New Year.  

From Tule Spring it is a short hike to the Burro Mesa Pour-off road.  It was a total of about six miles from camp to where I had left the van parked at the Sotol Vista parking area.  I ran to get the van while everyone else hiked out to the road.  By about 11:45 we were enjoying the somewhat peculiar sounds of the Sofa Kings ("sofa king smooth, they're squeezably soft" the fliers said.)  Although it was an odd mix of instruments played by an even odder assortment of musicians, they were quite good.  There is no way to adequately describe the style.  They were folkish with a jazz/bluesy/progressive feel.  

What was really odd, however, was the crowd.  Most of our crew could not legally be there.  None of the people at la Kiva cared.  The assortment of people in the room was astounding.  It has been more than fourteen years, so I don't remember as much about particular personalities as I wish i did, but TWWG's "creeps me out" would have been a major understatement.  The funniest thing was when a 60'ish woman trying to look 30 pounced on sixteen year old Adam, would not take "No" for an answer as she tried to dance "up close and personal."  Adam was horrified, she was obviously hoping for a "Mrs. Robinson" moment, we all tried as hard as we could not to laugh.  

The whole evening was sort of a surreal blur.  Another little place in town was serving black-eyed peas and a "traditional" New Years Eve dinner.  It turned out to be badly planned, slower than molasses and not very good chicken-spaghetti.  We finished eating a little after 3:00 AM and drove back to the Burro Mesa Pour-off parking area, hiked the two miles back to camp and by about 4:30 got to bed.

Jan. 1 We slept in until about 10:00 and then did our hike over Burro Mesa and up to camp at Ward Spring, arriving right at dusk.

Jan. 2  we headed south, cross-country to Blue Creek Canyon, hiked out to the road and I ran back to the Burro Mesa Pour-off parking lot to get the van.  We retrieved the other two cars further south on RMSD and (after returning the borrowed pot!) headed over to Boquillas for 3-for-a-dollar tacos and burritos, soaked for a while in the Hot Springs and headed up to the Gage Hotel for dinner and the night in Marathon.
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2007, 11:09:19 am »

Great itinerary...
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2007, 12:04:17 pm »

I was just out at Paint Gap this weekend. The road to PG 4 wasn't bad. I will second (or 3rd or 4th) that PG2 and 3 are just too close to one another to give any sort of a backcountry feeling. If you're worried your vehicle won't make it to PG4, PG1 is by itself. I've stayed there before and it is out in the open without shade or anything to block the wind, but it gives the most spectacular views of the Chisos at sunset. You can also see the sun rise over the distant del Carmens as well.
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2007, 12:07:32 pm »

La Kiva is probably one of my favorite places IN THE WORLD!!!!  My roomate used to host open mic night every other Wednesday and it was always a blast.  The food there is really good and Terlingua is an incredible place - truely the last outpost of America.  
If La Kiva were in Austin you would have a bunch of phony hipsters trying to act cool by going there/being there.  But the people that go to La Kiva are for the most part their crazy selfs, going there because they don't want to hang out at the starlight.  
La Kiva is a must for first timers in the Big Bend to show them that the West Texas folks aren't just a bunch of cow punchers.

Great trip plan too...hitting all the good spots, not trying to pack the schedule too much.
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