can someone recommend a good overnighter.....off icial or unofficial trail?
Consider Banta ShutIn; easy access to the trail head, not as much uphill as the Rim. Lots of others, depending on your capability; and if you have a high clearance vehicle.
LOL, Xseption thru us all off back in December 07 when he 'revived' Phil's thread. Of course Phil hasnt logged on since March 06. Who knows, he could be back.