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Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail

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Offline VivaTerlingua

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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #75 on: August 13, 2014, 01:55:30 PM »
Speaking of BBRSP, they have a number of mountain bike trails in the park and I don't think they detract from the park at all.  Maybe it's because they're in areas that aren't normally viewed from anywhere else.  But it should be possible to make them work in the national park.  A mountain bike trail is no more intrusive than a hiking trail.

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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2014, 10:34:59 PM »
A new public comment period has been kicked off from 08/22/2014 to 09/26/2014. Here is a link where the the revised EA document can be found:

Revised Environmental Assessment- -Construct Multi-Use Trail near Panther Junction

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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #77 on: August 25, 2014, 10:55:42 AM »
What is curious is that this EA would suggest a significantly more extensive project area than that of the first MU trail around Lone Mountain.
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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #78 on: September 02, 2014, 01:04:51 PM »
What is curious is that this EA would suggest a significantly more extensive project area than that of the first MU trail around Lone Mountain.
It would appear that this is what is now being proposed.

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Offline Ay Chihuahua!

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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #79 on: September 02, 2014, 01:15:33 PM »
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The trail would be unsurfaced and have an average width of 24 to 36 inches, with wider portions along curves in the route. Areas of trail constructed for two-way traffic would average 36 to 48 inches in width.
This is taken from the EA.  It looks like they are proposing a dumbed down version of a single track mtn bike trail.  This is way too wide and unnecessary.  I don't see why the trail would need to be any more than 24 inches wide at most.  12 inches wide would work just fine.  If there are section that are 4 feet wide, I see what wigfall is talking about.

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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #80 on: September 02, 2014, 01:53:00 PM »
I'm pretty sure the trails in this EA are the same as in the original proposal. I think they cleaned it up and had to reopen it to public comment because of a bureaucratic uh-oh alluded to in a recent Park Press Release. Basically it fell in a hole and got rescued. I asked about it in August and I understood that the Lone Mountain part was complete, but did not ask about the Grape Vine Hills part. I suspect it could be opened as a foot trail any time. The guy in the gas station pointed to where it begins. The question is getting regulations approved for bike use.

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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2014, 01:04:15 PM »
Flash, I think you nailed it. Here, the current EA serves to address the current phase and the subsequent phase as a single proposal, which I don't believe the previous made very clear. Also, regarding width, at BBRSP we generally try to stick to a minimum of 18" of tread width for multiuse trails. With that said, there is a great degree of variation depending on the tread surface and topography such that it ranges from 18" to around five feet. A general rule is that the wider the trail, the easier it is expected to be for most users.
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Offline RichardM

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Re: Big Bend National Park Proposal To Develop Multi-Use Biking Trail
« Reply #82 on: January 01, 2015, 12:10:35 AM »

I haven't been to the Park since last November, so I can't speak as to whether the trail is visible from 385.  However, I can't imagine that a MTB trail would look like something that had been bulldozed.  Most trails that are devoted solely to MTB use are usually narrower than all of the major hiking trails in the Park and certainly should not be visible from far away.  For instance, some of the MTB trails near the Lajitas airport can be difficult to find until you are right on top of them.  Is what you are describing really a MTB trail, or is it a new road to access the trailhead?

I don't have to imagine it, I saw it this week. A highly visable, 2plus mile long slash at the eastern base of Lone mtn. It's not a road, its the trail. the trailhead is near the petrol station
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Yes, when I go back I'll take some

I got tired of waiting for Wigfall to return with pictures, so I drove out there myself and took a pic.


 


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