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Hiker Dies After Four Days Without Water

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Offline Casa Grande

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Re: Hiker Dies After Four Days Without Water
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2006, 10:27:24 AM »
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Maybe that should be the slogan used on the t-shirts from the contest.


Well, now that you mention it, when will the contest resume so that the 3- or 4-way deadlock can be solved?


as soon as the passion returns  :oops:

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2006, 12:06:40 PM »
Thanks for posting the online obituary Jeff, seems to have been very experienced backpacker, sad very sad.
Visiting BB since 1966, nothing like being lost and finding heaven.

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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2006, 01:09:34 PM »
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Thanks for posting the online obituary Jeff, seems to have been very experienced backpacker, sad very sad.


Yes -- doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would run out of water at all. I wonder what prevented him from heading back to Fresno Creek, which surely had water, or on to the Blue Creek trailhead.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2006, 03:11:47 PM »
Most likely we will never know, as you dehydrate it affects you thinking and judgement, maybe he felt like he did not need the water and became dehydrated enough to affect thought process. Again very sad ending to what should have been a beautiful trip to a beautiful place :cry:  :cry:
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2006, 09:02:36 PM »
this is depressing.....i think i've gotta leave now. :(  Yall, take care out there, please?  I don't know how I'd react if I find out any one of you guys met the same fate.

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2006, 09:20:39 PM »
I can't help but wonder if it might have be intentional, at least at some level, given his experience and age.  

There are worse ways to die, so I hear.

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2006, 10:00:29 PM »
Sorry for stating the obvious.  

He was an exceptional man as best I can tell and it's hard to think otherwise.

Al

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2006, 10:04:33 PM »
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Sorry for stating the obvious.  

Wasn't at all obvious to me.  Had he fallen off the South Rim, maybe, but I can't imagine what circumstances would lead someone to choose to die of thirst.  There's always a worse way to die, but dying of thirst has got to be pretty high up on the list.

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2006, 10:06:35 PM »
Wait 20 or 30 years.  I don't want to die of thirst but I can't help but think of the movie Grumpy Old Men.

Al

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We'll probably never know
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2006, 10:08:41 PM »
I think it is more likely that he found himself debilitated somehow by some degree of stroke or heart problem.  A small, even short-term impairment in physical or mental ability can lead to disaster.  

There certainly are cultures where people go off into the wilderness to die when they are towards the end of life.  In this case it seems more likely that an experienced hiker encountered some unanticipated problem.

Several years ago I had a participant develop congestive heart failure the second day out on an eight day outing.  We did not know what it was until he got home to Delaware.  It made things very difficult for him.  

The older we get (...he said speaking from experience...) the more these things happen.
Funny... I have a story about that...

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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2006, 10:16:20 PM »
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I think it is more likely that he found himself debilitated somehow by some degree of stroke or heart problem.  A small, even short-term impairment in physical or mental ability can lead to disaster.  

There certainly are cultures where people go off into the wilderness to die when they are towards the end of life.  In this case it seems more likely that an experienced hiker encountered some unanticipated problem.

Several years ago I had a participant develop congestive heart failure the second day out on an eight day outing.  We did not know what it was until he got home to Delaware.  It made things very difficult for him.  

The older we get (...he said speaking from experience...) the more these things happen.


That is more likely than my suggestion.

Al

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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2006, 03:21:52 PM »
Its horrible to hear about things like this. It sounds like he encounterd some unforeseen problem during the hike. He looks like he was an experienced hiker, maybe he only planned for a day hike and then got lost..... who knows. God bless his family.
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2006, 10:23:45 PM »
There was just a piece on the 10:00 news about Carl Springer.  His funeral was today.  

Mr. Springer wrote notes to his wife, 2 children, son-in-law and 4 grandchildren.  The notes made it plain that he took responsibility for his situation and the outcome he expected.  

He was portrayed as a happy, healthy man for his age, with a wife of 45 years, and much to live for.  They showed pics of him with his young grandchildren in many settings, one in front of the Bibe sign.  There was one funny photo of him with pack, and labels:  '6-month-old knee installed by experts'; '70-year-old man'; '52-lb pack'.  My comment:  priceless.  

No explanation was given as to why he ran out of water.  His wife did say, 'everyone, please, take enough water.'
As a matter of fact, I _do_ have an opinion on that....

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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2006, 11:31:23 PM »
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Mr. Springer wrote notes to his wife, 2 children, son-in-law and 4 grandchildren. The notes made it plain that he took responsibility for his situation and the outcome he expected.


TG, Was there more on what this meant?

Al

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