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New food and water storage/caching rules, Bear canisters in the Bend

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Re: New food and water storage/caching rules, Bear canisters in the Bend
« Reply #165 on: January 03, 2019, 10:07:59 AM »
I'm glad you posted your fix here, ME. I think it's a brilliant solution to the new water cache rules, and the people who most need it will probably be more likely to find it in this thread.  Thanks for sharing!
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Re: New food and water storage/caching rules, Bear canisters in the Bend
« Reply #166 on: February 09, 2020, 11:37:50 PM »
As an owner of several different Ursacks and also two Bareboxer Contenders, I read through all 12 pages of this thread, in preparation for my upcoming BIBE trip.  I always prefer to take Ursacks, when allowed.  With all of the confusion on the BIBE NPS site (IGBC containers are approved, but Ursack not listed, etc., I decided to take the Bareboxer Contenders on this trip.  I came to this decision, after checking Ursack's own website.  Ursack, themselves, do not believe their products are approved for BIBE use:

https://ursack.com/pages/where-ursack-is-approved


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Re: New food and water storage/caching rules, Bear canisters in the Bend
« Reply #167 on: February 10, 2020, 06:24:36 AM »
rw6jyeh6 thanks for that new info from Ursack.  Other than the one report that a ranger said an Ursack was okay the written rules indicate only hard sided containers.  The bottom line is still if you keep your food within arms reach you do not need to carry a bear can (or stay in the Chisos with bear boxes at each campsite).  If you walk away from your food and technically water, you will need to leave it in a bear can.  So, I still wouldn't carry one unless I was base camping and wanted to leave food and smellables behind while day hiking.

I do find it interesting where it is approved and not, very random and seems to be at the whim of the park management.

temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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