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Patterson welcomes return of Second Amendment rights to some National Parks

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PRESS RELEASE

Patterson welcomes return of Second Amendment rights to some National Parks
Proposed rules change would respect state carry laws in all national parks and refuges

AUSTIN - Jerry Patterson, Commissioner of the Texas General Land Office, today praised proposed rules changes by Secretary of Interior Dirk Kempthorne that would respect state laws regarding the carrying of concealed firearms in federal parks. The rules are now subject to public comment before adoption.

"Texans who can lawfully carry a firearm in state parks can now carry in federal parks, including Big Bend National Park," Patterson said.

Patterson said the ban on carrying concealed firearms in national parks was unconstitutional and never should have been inflicted on Americans these past 25 years.

"Federal bureaucrats simply shouldn’t be allowed to override the Constitution with administrative rules," Patterson said.

"The anti Bill of Rights crowd will say this is unnecessary and dangerous. Americans who live in concealed carry states have heard this before," said Patterson, author of the Texas Concealed Handguns Law.

"They said 'blood would run in the streets,' but that didn't happen and it won't happen in national parks," Patterson said. "The Bill of Rights enumerates a right to 'keep and bear arms.'  I should not be required to forgo my Second Amendment, or for that matter my First, Fourth or Fifth Amendment rights just because I happen to be in a park."

"When I'm in a state or national park, I'm armed," Patterson said. "An unconstitutional rule promulgated by a federal bureaucracy is not sufficient to deny me that right."

Patterson urged Texans who care about gun rights to comment on the proposed federal rules change, available in the Federal Register and on www.doi.gov.

Once the public comment period has closed, all comments received will be evaluated and incorporated into the decision making process on a final rule. The number and substance of the comments received will determine the timeline for the final decision.

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For he's a jolly good fellow
For he's a jolly good fellow
For he's a jolly good fellow
Which somebody might deny!

But not me! I'm beginning to really like this Patterson Guy!
Really beginning to see his side. (hope not to discuss this in the politics section) :pissed: :eusa_doh:
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Patterson welcomes return of Second Amendment rights to some National Parks
Proposed rules change would respect state carry laws in all national parks and refuges

Dang, good news for a change. This will potentially make the parks even less crowded since the people who have been taught by liberals and the media that guns are bad and are to be feared without facts and logic getting in the way will now just stay home since it will be SOOOO much more dangerous for them.  :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

What will the sheep find to protest when all their dire predictions of poaching and gunslinging fail to come true (as has been the case in every state with concealed carry)?


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I hate it when that happens.  :willynilly:

I fixed your goofed-up "rolling" emoticons, too.  The colons had disappeared.
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Here's the DOI press release:
http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/080430.html

Yep. Already submitted my comments in support of this positive change.
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Here's the DOI press release:
http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/080430.html

Yep. Already submitted my comments in support of this positive change.

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I will third that :eusa_dance: :eusa_dance:
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Sounds like another election year promise to me.
I wonder how the park rangers feel about it? I have a feeling they won't be thrilled.
I'll be the jump start for the car parked in your mind, 'Cause you left the lights on all night long.

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I wonder how the park rangers feel about it? I have a feeling they won't be thrilled.

Of course they won't be thrilled and a lot of them probably will lobby against it. Their retiree group is soiling their undies over this.

The agency and the employees and the retirees and their slavish supporters will advance all the tired and never-proved arguments that all kinds of lawlessness will be unleashed, that they and the sheep will be at risk of injury or worse and that we all should accept their existing 'reasonable rules' about this.

Too bad for them. They need to concentrate on violent park crimes like dogs off leash and flower-picking, not people who lawfully carry firearms. Unfortunately, it's only concealed carry permittees who will get the pass as it is written. On BLM and USFS anyone not prohibited (meaning felons) from possession can carry a firearm at their discretion. Oh well, small first steps in the right direction are better than allowing the NPS to continue to violate civil rights 100% of the time on this issue.

The Brady Campaign Against the Constitution likewise is feeling poorly that their brand of blather is increasingly rejected by citizens.
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Patterson said the ban on carrying concealed firearms in national parks was unconstitutional and never should have been inflicted on Americans these past 25 years.

Like I said earlier, the law was wrong. Unconstitutional, and it's about time someone did something about it.

As well, Texas Law states that anyone travelling more than two counties from their place of residence, it allowed to carry a firearm in their vehicle.
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Personally, I think we should go to Arizona ways. You can carry a side arm on the street openly, no permit required.

I can remember quite vividly on a motorcycle vacation when in Arizona, meeting a group of guys called the "Lost Dutchmen" motorcycle club. I saw them all with double guns strapped to each thigh, it was the coolest thing I had seen.... all these guys riding their Iron Horses down the road and side arms strapped to their thighs.... like a modern day cowboy. I asked them about it, and the only place they can't carry is in a bar.

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Of course they won't be thrilled and a lot of them probably will lobby against it.

Then there's still a chance sanity will prevail.
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I saw them all with double guns strapped to each thigh, it was the coolest thing I had seen.... all these guys riding their Iron Horses down the road and side arms strapped to their thighs.... like a modern day cowboy.


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Personally, I think we should go to Arizona ways. You can carry a side arm on the street openly, no permit required.

NM is the same. NM law does not expressly allow openly wearing a firearm, but the law only addresses unlawful 'concealed' carry, thus wearing a handgun in a belt holster is permissible.
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