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Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...

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Offline marufo

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Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« on: December 31, 2018, 09:41:19 AM »
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/long-islander-texas-government-shutdown-1.25164275
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Snider, 26, is an avid outdoorsman who said he wasn't concerned by a notice on the park's website saying “emergency services remain available, but response times may be delayed" because of the partial government shutdown.
“I was just excited to come when the park was going to be less busy,” Snider said Saturday. “But, yeah, it turned around to bite me a little bit.”
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“If there wasn’t a shutdown, I probably would’ve been able to get out in a more efficient way,” Snider said. “But it also showed me, especially with this park ranger working unpaid, it showed me the dedication that some people have for their jobs and have for the greater good of society. It shows a beautiful part of humanity that you don’t see every day.”

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Offline Flash

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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 10:18:05 AM »
Marufo, you trolling? No bite here.

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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 10:22:33 AM »
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/long-islander-texas-government-shutdown-1.25164275
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Snider, 26, is an avid outdoorsman who said he wasn't concerned by a notice on the park's website saying “emergency services remain available, but response times may be delayed" because of the partial government shutdown.
“I was just excited to come when the park was going to be less busy,” Snider said Saturday. “But, yeah, it turned around to bite me a little bit.”
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“If there wasn’t a shutdown, I probably would’ve been able to get out in a more efficient way,” Snider said. “But it also showed me, especially with this park ranger working unpaid, it showed me the dedication that some people have for their jobs and have for the greater good of society. It shows a beautiful part of humanity that you don’t see every day.”

Nice story, but factually weak (to me)

"The family and Bright carried Snider back along most of the 1.7-mile trail, when they met up with a park ranger working unpaid that day. Identified only as “Matt,” the ranger carried Snider on his back for the rest of the two-hour return to the start of the trail.

Doesn't make sense. In addition the trail is 1.7 miles ROUND TRIP
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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 11:59:50 AM »

I don't think egress would've been much more efficient. Probably less so (more people and paraphernalia is not more efficient). And... technically... "Matt" is not working for free. He will get back pay.


He got an owie on the Santa Elena trail?  :o  I'd have been more impressed if he had been recreating Lance and friends (names are escaping my storage device) epic Cattail canyon adventure or at least been scampering around Mariscal Mine or something like that. Breaking a leg on the Santa Elena trail is akin to breaking a leg on the way up to the restaurant (assuming you don't drive to the side instead of walk up the stairs)  :shock:  (I'm going to remember saying this, maybe, in 10 or 20 years and be embarrassed)


I'm going to walk out to the car and drive into town now... hopefully it all goes well... the shutdown is on and I don't know how safe it will be... PS- I didn't even know the shutdown happened until yesterday... No news is good news...

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/long-islander-texas-government-shutdown-1.25164275
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Snider, 26, is an avid outdoorsman who said he wasn't concerned by a notice on the park's website saying “emergency services remain available, but response times may be delayed" because of the partial government shutdown.
“I was just excited to come when the park was going to be less busy,” Snider said Saturday. “But, yeah, it turned around to bite me a little bit.”
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“If there wasn’t a shutdown, I probably would’ve been able to get out in a more efficient way,” Snider said. “But it also showed me, especially with this park ranger working unpaid, it showed me the dedication that some people have for their jobs and have for the greater good of society. It shows a beautiful part of humanity that you don’t see every day.”

Nice story, but factually weak (to me)

"The family and Bright carried Snider back along most of the 1.7-mile trail, when they met up with a park ranger working unpaid that day. Identified only as “Matt,” the ranger carried Snider on his back for the rest of the two-hour return to the start of the trail.

Doesn't make sense. In addition the trail is 1.7 miles ROUND TRIP

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Offline dprather

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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 12:04:02 PM »
I thought the SE trail was one of the ones that had been specifically shut down...
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Offline House Made of Dawn

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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 09:32:12 PM »
If I found him out there in violation of a posted trail closure, I would’ve left him to die...um, I mean to his own self-rescue.


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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2019, 01:35:05 AM »
I think the SE trail closure was a secondary closure.  I'm thinking it might have been Dec. 26th, but I could easily be wrong.  Maybe the closure was in response to this incident.
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Offline House Made of Dawn

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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2019, 02:20:17 AM »
I think the SE trail closure was a secondary closure.  I'm thinking it might have been Dec. 26th, but I could easily be wrong.  Maybe the closure was in response to this incident.

Clearer heads prevail. You may be right, Quatro. Thanks for the reality check.
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Offline Jonathan Sadow

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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2019, 01:56:05 AM »
Here's what I found to be the money quote in the article:

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... Snider slipped on a rock while climbing about 6 to 8 feet up boulders....

One of the challenges of visitor management in national parks (and, indeed, public lands in general) is that, absent a specific closure order, people can go anywhere and do any stupid thing they want to, like this gentleman did.  I've occasionally encountered the specific behavior in which this gentleman was engaged in my duties at GUMO, often on the Devil's Hall Trail.  Standing still and noticeably observing the behavior while dressed in my resplendent NPS volunteer uniform typically brings a quick conclusion to such activity, especially when accompanied by a loud clearing of the throat.

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Re: Political preaching in 3, 2, 1...
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 11:38:20 PM »

I saw a father with two small children in tow (like 4 or 5 years old) walk into the willows at YSNP to get a closer look at a Grizz (399) and her two cubs. Bystanders alerted the ranger and he extricated the idiot and defenseless children from the willows before things went south. A visit to a National Park seems to always yield some idiocy. Not so much at BBNP as YSNP and the GTNP.

Here's what I found to be the money quote in the article:

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... Snider slipped on a rock while climbing about 6 to 8 feet up boulders....

One of the challenges of visitor management in national parks (and, indeed, public lands in general) is that, absent a specific closure order, people can go anywhere and do any stupid thing they want to, like this gentleman did.  I've occasionally encountered the specific behavior in which this gentleman was engaged in my duties at GUMO, often on the Devil's Hall Trail.  Standing still and noticeably observing the behavior while dressed in my resplendent NPS volunteer uniform typically brings a quick conclusion to such activity, especially when accompanied by a loud clearing of the throat.

 


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