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Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM

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Offline mountaindocdanny

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Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« on: August 25, 2008, 10:29:12 AM »
This was my first trip to take all five of our kids (5,4,3,2,1) backpacking by myself. We went to one of our favorite places in the world, the Valle Vidal of New Mexico. We had our third bear siting of the summer, spent several hours pinned down in the tent by rain/hail and got to roll around in mud for the weekend. Enjoy.

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 10:46:47 AM »
wow man, 5 YOUNG kids and all that gear!!!  You are alot braver than I.  Looks like a fun trip.  Those are some lucky kiddos.

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2008, 10:51:18 AM »
I think you are the only guy , in this chatboard who puts on a backpack with a counter weight !! :eusa_eh:

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2008, 01:26:11 PM »

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2008, 01:48:12 PM »
My usual "bear stuff".
http://www.beretta.com/index.aspx?m=74&idc=2&ids=24
Chambered for .45 caliber. It sure won't stop a grizzly, but a couple of well placed rounds would deter a black bear.

I've had experiences with "trash bears" and "national park/campground bears" but this was the first I've had show any interest in me that was less likely to be one or the other. Likely it was a curious adolescent. It was never threatening and after following us for a bit it loped off into the timber.

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2008, 02:27:41 PM »
My bear deterrent. Scares the [blank] out of 'em. Also works well when they're still distant and only thinking about charging.
Jeff Blaylock
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splendor and the complicated grandeur of Big Bend will still be here. Waiting for us."--Ed Abbey

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2008, 03:51:00 PM »
Man, I gotta ask... which weighs more... you or your backpack? 

And here I thought I carried a big pack!

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2008, 11:12:32 PM »
Fantastic! Love the "grouchy grouse" in one of the previous posts.  :icon_smile:
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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2008, 08:23:59 AM »
It looks like you guys had quite an adventure!

However, I showed your trip report to my wife and she went ballistic. Since I had to take the brunt of it and didn't even get to go hiking, I thought I'd share her concerns. She was talking pretty fast, so I'll have to paraphrase a bit and at least try to express what I think she was trying to say as after the first few sentences I started to lose focus. Here goes:
Quote from: RichardM's wife
Are you kidding me? Is he insane? Who does he think he is, Superman? What if he slips and falls while carrying that backpack? What's he gonna do, send a 5 year old back to call for help? And what if that bear decided his kids looked like dinner entrees? Does he really think he could protect them from a bear by himself? And what about keeping a loaded gun around young kids? That whole trip was a CNN headline waiting to happen!

She went on for about 5 minutes, but that catches most of the sentiment. She also insisted that I educate you or I was being irresponsible as a fellow parent. So, consider yourself educated.  :icon_wink:

Note: to get the full effect of her statements, say them out loud very fast in a high-pitch, highly animated voice.

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Offline mountaindocdanny

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2008, 09:39:44 AM »
RichardM,

Your wife sounds a lot like my mother-in-law.:icon_smile:  I rest assured that statistically the drive there was much more dangerous than our trip. We all take calculated risks on a daily basis. Unfortunately as society has shifted to promoting more "protected" type environments for ourselves and our children we have lost a lot of the adventure in life. Children today often grow up without a sense of the self confidence borne of accepting challenges and rising to the occasion. I was very proud that never once did any of my children become hysterical when we saw the bear. They merely gathered closer around me and watched the animal. It is important to note as well that the animal was never threatening and merely displayed a similar degree of curiosity as that which we showed it.

I am very fortunate to have a wife who not only tolerates trips into the outdoors with the kids, but actively supports them as well. It is my hope that my children will grow up with a great passion for the outdoors, but even if that doesn't occur I do believe that they will at a minimum not be afflicted with irrational fears of "the big bad wilderness" and her occupants.

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2008, 09:49:38 AM »
Dumb question, Doc: your thoughts were to use your gun, in an emergency on the bear,ok.....what did you think your baby was going to react when you fired your gun and him strapped to your chest?. :eusa_think:
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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 10:10:44 AM »
Nonetheless, I'd say a satellite phone or maybe a PLB might be a good idea for your future solo adventures with the kids.

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 03:35:02 AM »
RichardM,

Unfortunately as society has shifted to promoting more "protected" type environments for ourselves and our children we have lost a lot of the adventure in life. Children today often grow up without a sense of the self confidence borne of accepting challenges and rising to the occasion.


Sadly, so true. I continually am baffled as to where the people come from who think they must regulate and protect everyone from themselves, or be the arbiters of what is 'correct' behavior or actions. It would seem the folks most concerned with this kind of attitude are themselves the least capable of functioning without a safety net. It must be a desire to drag everyone to their level of inability.

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Re: Another Trip Report: Valle Vidal, NM
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 03:38:55 AM »
Nonetheless, I'd say a satellite phone or maybe a PLB might be a good idea for your future solo adventures with the kids.

I agree. There's no reason to ignore technology. It only becomes an issue when hardware entices folks into taking chances they otherwise would not. I don't see that occurring to mountaindocdanny.
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