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Title: Needles trip
Post by: DesertRatShorty on June 27, 2018, 11:16:26 AM
Thanks to some suggestions here I went to the Canyonlands Needles district in early May, and posted a report over at Bogley (http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?78070-Five-Days-in-the-Needles) if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: elhombre on June 27, 2018, 03:49:03 PM
Very Nice. Thanks for throwing it out here.   :great:

Never heard of Virginia Park.  Nice find.  Can tell it is older because they still have an old style wooden sign out there instead of one of the newer ones.

Did they get the pooper truck situation figured out yet?  Last year they had one ordered and custom built so that it could make all the way out to Devil's Kitchen via SOB Hill.   But, the neckbones who spec'ed it out made it too big.  So it was useless.  I know that backpackers have to carry poop bags for Chesler Park, but they were telling us last year that the toilets were closed at Devil's Kitchen, and we would have to poop in a bag.  Luckily, they were still unlocked when we got there, but they were about topped off.
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: GaryF on June 27, 2018, 09:16:09 PM
Great report DRS.

I’ll 2nd Canyonlands / Chesler Park. Pretty awesome options in the area.  For extra credit while there,  see if you can find Virgina Park, but please obey the signs and don’t enter the research area.

Sounds like you not only got the extra credit, but also an nteresting history of the area / project.
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: DesertRatShorty on June 28, 2018, 06:33:10 AM
Did they get the pooper truck situation figured out yet?  Last year they had one ordered and custom built so that it could make all the way out to Devil's Kitchen via SOB Hill.   But, the neckbones who spec'ed it out made it too big.  So it was useless.  I know that backpackers have to carry poop bags for Chesler Park, but they were telling us last year that the toilets were closed at Devil's Kitchen, and we would have to poop in a bag.  Luckily, they were still unlocked when we got there, but they were about topped off.

That's amusing. They only told me to poop in a bag in Chesler Park and Elephant Canyon. The toilets at Devil's Kitchen where open, so I guess they sorted it out. They seem hyper-sensitive (to some extent with good reason) about poop, I got a kick out of this sign at the Elephant Hill trailhead.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/964/41063537835_03223ea42d_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25yDnaD)
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: DesertRatShorty on June 28, 2018, 06:35:54 AM
Great report DRS.

I’ll 2nd Canyonlands / Chesler Park. Pretty awesome options in the area.  For extra credit while there,  see if you can find Virgina Park, but please obey the signs and don’t enter the research area.

Sounds like you not only got the extra credit, but also an nteresting history of the area / project.

Yeah I lucked out running in to the ranger, and the ranger being cool about it.
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: Hang10er on June 28, 2018, 07:42:37 AM
That area out there looks so neat.  I like BiBE but when I see those Utah and New Mexico areas with the red cliffs, dirt and rocks with spots of dark green plants and trees.  I guess it reminds me of old western movies.  That always seemed to the be location whenever I saw a cowboy on TV.  I can just imagine hiking out there and looking up and catching a Native American watching me from high up on some ledge!! 

Someday I plan to expand my exploration area and get out somewhere like that.  Thanks for the trip report.  Just like most of the reports on here, it's not only entertaining and educational but it sparks an interest.
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: Slimkitty on June 28, 2018, 08:01:58 AM
“Only YOU can reduce outhouse odor!”
That must be Smokey’s less popular cousin, Stinky Bear. 


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Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: elhombre on June 28, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
I am reminded of a disturbing sign I saw in the showers at Mesa Verde.  It was of the same red circle with a person crapping under the shower fixture. 

What's wrong with people?  Do they practice this at their own home? 

ALWAYS wear shower shoes at public showers! 
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: Jonathan Sadow on July 21, 2018, 03:08:07 AM
I am reminded of a disturbing sign I saw in the showers at Mesa Verde.  It was of the same red circle with a person crapping under the shower fixture. 

What's wrong with people?  Do they practice this at their own home? 

ALWAYS wear shower shoes at public showers!

It's Asians.  Although Western-style toilets are becoming more common, in China and southeast Asia, the most common accommodation for taking care of business is essentially a hole in the floor over which the user squats.  Visitors from those parts to this country sometimes are confused by toilets and squat on the bowl, and shower stalls bear a resemblance to the accommodations back home and are used as such, hence the signage.
Title: Re: Needles trip
Post by: presidio on July 21, 2018, 01:36:38 PM
I am reminded of a disturbing sign I saw in the showers at Mesa Verde.  It was of the same red circle with a person crapping under the shower fixture. 

What's wrong with people?  Do they practice this at their own home? 

ALWAYS wear shower shoes at public showers!

It's Asians.  Although Western-style toilets are becoming more common, in China and southeast Asia, the most common accommodation for taking care of business is essentially a hole in the floor over which the user squats.  Visitors from those parts to this country sometimes are confused by toilets and squat on the bowl, and shower stalls bear a resemblance to the accommodations back home and are used as such, hence the signage.

I guess the grate over the drain with the tiny holes to strain debris isn't enough of a clue, not to mention the small size of the hole.