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Offline RichardM

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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2007, 03:07:46 PM »
Personally, I just make sure my bladder's empty before I get in the sleeping bag.  Otherwise, I'll either tough it out or get out and go.

My Dad wanted to use a pee bottle in 11/2005, but I said "not in my tent".  Good thing, as his bottle (old 1/2 gallon milk bottle) had a leak when he tried using it just outside the tent.  Never mind that we were camped right across the road from the bathroom in the Basin campground.  :roll:

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2007, 03:33:16 PM »
Proper backcountry etiquette is to dig a "pee trench" running away from the door of your tent.  This is the perfect compromise between getting dressed and going outside and being unrefined and pissing in your tent/bag/bottle/whatever.   This is especially ideal for solo backpackers or those without "signficant others" along.   Be sure to end the trench with an "infiltration pool" away from the tent and make sure it is sloping AWAY from the tent and not back-towards the tent.  Proper etiquette also dictates that you should cover the pee trench with dirt and dust as soon as you get up in the morning so it is not visible to any passers-by.   The pee trench also serves as a scent-warning to any nocturnal animals that might be prowling around your campsite at night - it says "Don't Mess With Me I Am A Big Human Male With Lots of Piss".   You will sleep better at night knowing you have left your scent around the campsite as a warning to all creatures great and small... TWWG

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2007, 03:43:25 PM »
Homero...if i was wearing synthetic/polyester pants......don't bother gettin out....they'll dry pretty fast............... ......pee in the comfort of yer tent       : )

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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2007, 05:03:46 PM »
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Two words....pee bottle.


Two more words: Big Mess

as it get used in the cramped confines of a backpacking tent.  :D
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Offline presidio

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2007, 05:07:31 PM »
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Personally, I just make sure my bladder's empty before I get in the sleeping bag.  Otherwise, I'll either tough it out or get out and go.


Toughing it out is counterproductive when it is cold. You use a lot of energy keeping waste liquids warm. Off load it and you'll be so much warmer, not to mention more comfortable. The couple of minutes out of the bag aren't that big of a deal, even when it's extremely cold.

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I said "not in my tent".


Wise decision.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2007, 05:12:09 PM »
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Proper backcountry etiquette is to dig a "pee trench" running away from the door of your tent.


This quickly runs afoul of the NPS prohibition on digging, doesn't it? After all, the only thing they seem to tolerate is a 'cat hole'. I guess you could articulate a linear cat hole on the basis of moving while doing it, even though that is an image I'd rather not have to dwell on. :shock:  :shock:

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The pee trench also serves as a scent-warning to any nocturnal animals that might be prowling around your campsite at night - it says "Don't Mess With Me I Am A Big Human Male With Lots of Piss".


Why not just spray the whole area down before retiring? You know, fire-hose like?  :D  :shock:
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2007, 05:15:05 PM »
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Homero...if i was wearing synthetic/polyester pants......don't bother gettin out....they'll dry pretty fast............... ......pee in the comfort of yer tent       : )


That 'aaahhhhh' moment will fade pretty quick as the liquid cools. Of course, you'll be trailing that 'don't mess with me scent' everywhere you go since you've messed yourself.  :shock:  :shock:

The benefit side of the cost/benefit ratio here is real low.  :D
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Offline Robert

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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2007, 09:52:28 PM »
Quote from: "presidio"
Two more words: Big Mess
as it get used in the cramped confines of a backpacking tent.  :D


Quote from: "presidio"
The couple of minutes out of the bag aren't that big of a deal, even when it's extremely cold.


To each his own. First off when it is cold AND raining (like is was last week) it is more than a couple of minutes to get dressed, take care of business, and then get undressed. The issue to me is that I don't sleep soundly when backpacking anyway and all the dressing/undressing ensures I'm going to be wide awake when done.

Secondly, I haven't been in a backpacking tent yet that was so cramped that it made it difficult.

At any rate the original post was asking for options. I posted an option that obviously is not for everyone.

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Offline homerboy2u

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2007, 09:58:52 PM »
OK...people...many options: I know. I have personnally have given some thought to all of them at different times, but one idea still escapes us all: What if instead I use a deflated ballon and fill it up all the way, I wouldn't be needing getting out to the cold...and it would be very cold outside. Reason enough for consideration in getting out.

  Now second question, you are summon to a soiree in BiBe. First time for you and the rest of the people meeting up there. We get to talk, get to know each other, start to know a little of our background ...you know: having a conversation.

  You make a colective dinner with Frijoles...lots of frijoles and onions and lemon & pepper chicken...why not: For dessert.....some lettuce salad. You know where I am getting :?:

  You start making a good mood, telling stories...most of them are lies, but nobody gives a hoot about it,everybody's enjoying the moment.  You drank a full 6-pack of Fat Tires, have gotten to belching your A,B,C's...but  it is starting to be impossible to keep it anymore: Your gonna blow :!: ..what do you do :?: . I have to add, your in the middle of a story, but it's coming....MOBY DICK  :shock:  is going to make it's appearence. You are in a comprimising postion.... :oops:

SO LETS SEE......

  First time friends, great mood, awsome stories, a more than superb dinner...your gonna blow :!: ...what do you do :?: , very difficult to excuse yourself: You have a lot of questions coming your way..impossible to slip away, unless you are rude..it's coming. ....WHAT TO DO :?:
Stay thirsty, my friends.

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2007, 10:47:02 PM »
Have a contest among the males to see who can pee the furthest and who can pee the longest?

Al

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Offline Burn Ban

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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2007, 12:19:45 AM »
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Have a contest among the males to see who can pee the furthest and who can pee the longest?

Al


sadly for the rest of us, i think my 6 year old son can dominate both contests.  

i'll cover all bets.

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2007, 01:13:17 AM »
Obviously we need another qualifier. . . and is old enough to legally drink beer!

Al

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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2007, 01:18:33 AM »
LOL!  I can just see the women now just shaking their heads at all this manly chat.

 


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