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Point and Shoots

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« on: October 20, 2012, 04:23:40 PM »
Kevin, thanks.  As you point out SLRs are all about the lenses which can be quite expensive.  The cost of the body is almost secondary unless you go high end.  My G9 is nice but doesn't have the zoom or low light capability I would like.  I keep eying a SLR but can't quite talk myself into when I throw in the lenses I would like to have.  Looking at a Panasonic DMC-FZ150K for Christmas in lieu of the SLR that I keep longing for.


Al,


I've moved this part of the discussion to the Photo Gear area.


I helped my wife buy a G12 a little over a year ago.  Not great zoom but good in low light.  The G1X is almost certainly much better. I wanted something more portable and chose the S100 (see [size=78%]http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/photography-gear-and-tips/canon-g12-or-g1x/msg118237/#msg118237[/size])


By now there is probably something much better than the S100 and if I were buying now I'd probably research from scratch the S100 is great evidence of what can be done.


I thought I'd share a couple of examples of what is possible:



Shot totally handheld:  1/15sec, ISO 1600 - shake reduction must have done an amazing job because my hands aren't that steady.  I also think the extreme lightness of the camera contributes.



Handheld with elbows on the table:  1/10sec, 1600 iso, Candelight only.  There were no windows behind me and no electric lights in the room.



Handheld:  1/20 sec, 800 iso.



Handheld: 1/10 sec, 1600iso



Handheld:  1/100 sec, 3200 iso


All of the above benefited from noise reduction in Lightroom 3, except perhaps for the one shot at 800 iso.  In short, I think that the light weight of a point and shoot, combined with today's sensors and shake reduction technology along side noise reduction in post processing make a pretty powerful combo.  Just don't tell my wife.  I might "need" a new lens for my DSLR one of these days.


To address the consistency of the results I'll just say that every single one of the cheesy vacation pics in the following galleries was shot with the little point and shoot:


http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/District-of-Columbia
http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Virginia
http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Pennsylvania


The only time during the whole trip I turned on the flash was for fill light in the picture of the liberty bell.


Good luck at Christmas.
-- Kevin (W5KLT)

"It's not an adventure until something goes wrong."  --Yvon Chouinard

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Re: Point and Shoots
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 04:39:34 PM »
Hi Kevin,

I just got an S100 myself, but haven't had much time to take it for a spin.

Your SmugMug shots are great.

I take it as an experienced DSLR user you are shooting the S100 in fully manual mode? I am particularly wondering if you're using manual focus, or one of the auto-focus modes.

Have you thought about trying CHDK to increase max shutter from 15 seconds (IIRC) to something longer (up to an hour, I believe) for star shots?
John & Tess

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 05:10:32 PM »
I rarely ever use manual focus on a P&S. The implementation is generally too awkward. The delay between changing focus and seeing the result on screen is a pain and why they didn't provide the option to adjust focus by turning the control ring at the lens is beyond me.

If I am just walking around with my family and recording memories, I'll just use Program and get on with the fun. I usually get a feel for how much light I have to work with and set ISO to the lowest value that I think I can get away with.

Regardless of what mode (except manual) I am using I make heavy use of exposure compensation. I reconfigured my S100 to set exposure compensation from the control ring (again, except in manual mode). If I am shooting action, I go to Shutter Priority (Tv) for a fast shutter speed. If I am shooting outdoor shots I shoot Aperture Priority (Av) depending on how much depth-of-field I want.
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Re: Point and Shoots
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 05:16:58 PM »
So, in Program, are you using Flexi-Zone focus or AiAF?

If Flexi, are you mainly keeping it in the center, doing a half-shutter, then re-composing?

Sorry for the nooby questions... :icon_redface:
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Re: Point and Shoots
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2012, 05:26:59 PM »
If Flexi, are you mainly keeping it in the center, doing a half-shutter, then re-composing?


Yes.  That is exactly what I do.  Sometimes I will shift the focus area to a different part of the screen to avoid the recompose but generally I just recompose.
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Re: Point and Shoots
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2012, 09:24:41 PM »
Kevin, thank you!  That little camera far outperforms the G9 in low light and it is still on the recommended list by DC Resource.  Looks like with point and shoot there is a choice on excellent low light or high zoom cameras. I'm still pondering.

 


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