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Printing or Not?

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Printing or Not?
« on: December 22, 2012, 11:35:48 AM »
Just curious, but how many of you photogs are printing your own? I tend to use a local store for bulk 4 X 6's, but prefer to print larger at home. What do you guys do?

I just broke down and added a new printer to my tool kit.

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 11:42:10 AM »
I print. I took a digital printing workshop almost three years before I ever owned a printer and it has been invaluable.


I only have one printer. Its an Epson 4900. Their new R3000 is pretty nice




I just checked your blog- Pixma Pro... very nice. I've been playing the paper game lately. Epson has good paper. Canson has great paper. MOAB has my current favorite papers right now. A lot of things from Big Bend look great on Moab metallic paper.


Here's a link to a good source for all things printing- LINK

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 11:55:58 AM »
I print. I took a digital printing workshop almost three years before I ever owned a printer and it has been invaluable.


I only have one printer. Its an Epson 4900. Their new R3000 is pretty nice




I just checked your blog- Pixma Pro... very nice. I've been playing the paper game lately. Epson has good paper. Canson has great paper. MOAB has my current favorite papers right now. A lot of things from Big Bend look great on Moab metallic paper.


Here's a link to a good source for all things printing- LINK

I really like the cost and quality of the Ilford Classic Pearl paper for everday stuff, but I have been looking for a nice metallic and some fine art paper. I'll check out the Moab....Does the manufacturer have a selection of profiles or do you get them made or do your own?
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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 12:30:13 PM »
They've got profiles and they are pretty good. I ALWAYS softproof in LR4 (except black and white) so the profiles are a must have (but I think you know this otherwise you wouldn't have asked.


For Fine Art paper I've had really good results from:


MOAB Entrada Rag Natural (i've only printed B&W with this so far) The link is to a 300 GSM paper. They make a 190 GSM
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Canson Infinity Baryta Photographique


I prefer the MOAB paper. It's cheaper to buy it from AtLex by the way. MOAB actually had them contact me after a couple of orders and let me know they sell it for less. The Canson paper seems to be warmer


I also print on Somerset Museum Rag and it has a different look. Both Entrada and Somerset are matte black ink papers and both require that you coat afterwards but MOAB sells their Desert Varnish and it's easy enough to use.


If you are a Kelby Training person and you want a really good video on printing black and white this is good LINK The only thing I would say against it (for you) is that it's put on by Epson and Nik so there is a lot of Epson specific info as well as Silver Efex Pro 2 (which is the best Black and White conversion plug-in that I've ever seen) info. the most interesting and helpful thing that I learned was to let the printer manage color when printing black and white because of Epson's advanced black and white printing engine. I would've never tried that otherwise.


The NAPP site has some really good tutorials (that's where I learned how to do Christmas lights). They've got a real good sign up bonus thing going on.


The Grid is entertaining and free. All of the past programs are available for viewing. I caught the last show live and even though there were a ton of people commenting I was surprised when the addressed one of mind. They also do critiques and they don't pull punches. Their goal is to get photographers to improve their photography. Sometimes they'll pull an image into Photoshop and transform it just to show what could be done to bring image quality up.

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 12:32:56 PM »
I also like MOAB's Slickrock Metallic paper. Stars, landscapes, and even some portraits are awesome on this paper


MOAB's Colorado Fiber is in the list to try


Desert Varnish coating is easy enough to use

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2012, 12:43:27 PM »
Thanks for all the info! I'll check out some of them.
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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2012, 01:05:37 PM »
No problem. I enjoy helping




If anyone that reads this stuff lives anywhere close to Columbus, TX there is a photo club there that has all ranges of skills, really good people, and the best thing- No officers, no dues, just friendly critiques of 2 of your images every month. We email (dropbox actually) two images to the guy that projects them and then some of us bring prints. I don't really like the projection but I enjoy interacting with fellow photographers. We meet once a month on the first Thursday of every month at 6:30pm. One guy comes all the way from Wharton.


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Info from the site


Description

The Live Oak Camera Club was formed to further the art of photography through community outreach, educational meetings, programs and workshops.

Meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month at the Colorado County Services Facility, 305 Radio Lane in Columbus *(see below for directions). Members start arriving at 6:30 p.m. to view photos and the meeting begins at 7:00 p.m. You can become a member by just attending, there are no dues, officers or by-laws. Each member may submit two photos for comments and constructive review. One photo may be an “open” category and the other from the monthly assigned category listed below. Or the member can enter two in either category, but only two photos. Digital photos should be submitted by email to bobjlowe@airmail.net several days prior to the meeting date and will projected onto a large screen so the entire group can view the photo as it is critiqued with the intent of helping the photographer improve his or her skills in technique, composition, and appeal.

Additional meetings are called as quality speakers are available and will be announced by group emails and local newspaper. In addition to speakers, workshops and group photo outings are planned, usually each quarter.

PHOTO ASSIGNMENTS FOR 2013:
Jan 3 Door(s) or any part of
Feb 7 Stairway / steps / ladder
Mar 7 People: portrait / crowd/ group / photojournalistic
Apr 4 Street, traffic or other signs
May 2 Patterns
Jun 6 From above or below
Jul 11 Old (2nd Thursday since July 4 is a holiday)
Aug 1 Columns
Sep 5 Flash or fill-in flash
Oct 3 Rocks / boulders / stones
Nov 7 Colors / forms / abstracts / shapes
Dec 5 Fall colors

*The Colorado County Services Facility is located at 305 Radio Lane between Interstate 10 and Highway 90, just west of Columbus (north of I-10 and south of HWY90). Radio Lane runs north and south next to the Sheriff's Office.

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2012, 04:54:22 PM »
For me, it seems cheaper to send it out then the cost of a good printer, ink, and paper.   It's also less of a hassle.  For color,I get my prints on Fuji metallic pearl, which looks amazing.   check out SAPL for printing if you're in San Antonio.

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 12:00:11 PM »
MOAB has my current favorite papers right now. A lot of things from Big Bend look great on Moab metallic paper.

Thanks for the tip on the Moab Slickrock Metallic. I ordered some and I see why it is one of your favorites. Very nice......
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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2013, 01:47:49 PM »
I print my faves on a 63" wide Mutoh Falcon solvent ink printer.  I have a framed 40"x90" print of a Chisos sunset printed on artist canvas hanging in my bedroom.
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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 02:54:00 PM »
Don't print them; just post or e-mail; keep on external HD

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 07:18:56 PM »

I like it so much that I had to make myself stop printing everything on it  :D  It's not cheap but it sure does work well on landscape and night shots

MOAB has my current favorite papers right now. A lot of things from Big Bend look great on Moab metallic paper.

Thanks for the tip on the Moab Slickrock Metallic. I ordered some and I see why it is one of your favorites. Very nice......

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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 08:55:23 PM »

I like it so much that I had to make myself stop printing everything on it  :D  It's not cheap but it sure does work well on landscape and night shots

MOAB has my current favorite papers right now. A lot of things from Big Bend look great on Moab metallic paper.

Thanks for the tip on the Moab Slickrock Metallic. I ordered some and I see why it is one of your favorites. Very nice......

I agree that it is great, but I still like the Ilford Galerie Prestige Smooth Pearl for people. Very classic. Not cheap either, but the profiles are really good and the pearl finish is really nice. Try it.
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Re: Printing or Not?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 09:39:14 PM »
Oh great... just what I need... another paper to try out  :icon_lol:


but I will... it's not often that I get a paper recommendation that I trust. Most of my friends are Epson 260 people and that's it. Thanks a ton.

 


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