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Big Bend in the News => Regional News => Topic started by: jim2 on April 12, 2015, 02:18:02 PM

Title: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: jim2 on April 12, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/reject-waha-presidio-trans-pecos-pipeline
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: jim2 on April 12, 2015, 02:21:59 PM
http://www.notinourbigbend.com/
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: iCe on April 12, 2015, 02:31:56 PM
Petitions seem kind of political in nature to me.


If it was closer to BiBe I'd probably look at it differently but the route it will likely take, I have no way to know what route it will really take, is probably going to use existing ROW as often as possible and it will be a long, long way from BiBe. The park wouldn't let it bass through.


That's a big dollar project just for selling gas to Mexico... those typically don't pan out very well.



Here's a straight line route from Waha to Ojinaga. It will not be a straight line.


(http://wildlightimagingstudio.com/img/s12/v177/p1106533381-5.jpg)
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: iCe on April 12, 2015, 03:03:51 PM
Where do you see that? In the picture that I posted? That's just a measuring line that I put in Google Earth between the two points. Pipelines are never straight lines.
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: tbone on April 12, 2015, 05:32:16 PM
Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/Notinourbigbend
"Despite the bleak legal prognosis, some landowners are vowing to fight to the bitter end, among them Val Beard, the former county judge. She and her husband, Tom, own the Leoncita Ranch north of Alpine, among other family holdings.

She said she finally got enough specific information last week to pinpoint where Trans-Pecos Pipeline Ltd. wants to cross her land. “They want to run it right through our ranch headquarters, five homes, barns, shipping pens, buried electrical lines, lots of old family history,” she said. “And behind the house is Leoncita Springs, first known to history in 1684. Free-flowing springs, walnut trees, a beautiful desert oasis,” she added. Beard, who, like her husband is a lawyer, said a line in the sand has been drawn.

“This is one of those 'over my dead body’ things. We’re dead serious about opposing this,” she said.

And she expects the battle to be soon met. “As I understand the process, it’s going to roll out really, really fast, and part of their
strategy will be to divide land owners. Threaten people with going to court,” she said. “The problem with us, is we’ve been in court all our lives.” via San Antonio Express-News (https://www.facebook.com/SanAntonioExpressNews)
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: Flash on April 12, 2015, 05:47:06 PM
South of Alpine, I would think they would try to use the old railroad ROW to Presidio, wouldn't they?...  :eusa_think:
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: iCe on April 12, 2015, 07:06:25 PM
Right of Way... these days most pipeline companies don't want to go through condemnation proceedings. It's lengthy and very expensive. It's a lot easier, in most cases, to re-route.


For the record, I wouldn't want that stuff on my property either. Even if it was in the middle of no where. The only upside, as long as there isn't a mainline block valve setting or compressor station, is that there would be a long straight sendero to hunt on... then again, that could also be a downside because, especially out there, it's a long ugly scar that never heals. If there is equipment anywhere on your place that means there will be strangers accessing your place. During construction they'll be crawling all over. I don't blame them for getting upset...

Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: tbone on April 13, 2015, 04:10:32 PM
http://www.mrt.com/news/article_1ca21b56-e18f-11e4-812f-b31322b520f9.html
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: badknees on April 13, 2015, 06:19:33 PM
Quote
The consortium, called Trans-Pecos Pipeline Ltd, will own the pipeline, just one component of an extensive modernization of Mexico’s energy systems. The country is creating a national gas pipeline system and wants to increase the use of natural gas instead of coal in electric plants.

That might be a good thing....
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: blubear on May 16, 2015, 11:10:02 AM
It would seem that the big decisions have already been made, without input from local residents and landowners.

By the time the route of the pipeline becomes public knowledge, construction will have already begun and there will be no stopping it.

http://alpinedailyplanet.typepad.com/

https://www.facebook.com/Notinourbigbend?fref=ts
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: mr.bean5150 on May 18, 2015, 09:45:39 AM
Thanks for the info....
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: blubear on May 28, 2015, 08:49:23 AM
http://bigbendnow.com/2015/05/golliver-believe-the-pipeline-pr/
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: blubear on June 18, 2015, 08:26:53 AM
City will ask feds to deny pipeline

http://www.alpineavalanche.com/news/article_b73a6892-1530-11e5-b709-bb7f57ec5094.html
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: blubear on July 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
http://www.texastribune.org/2015/07/14/pristine-big-bend-pipeline-could-run-through-it/
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: Quatro on July 24, 2015, 11:25:14 PM
http://www.texastribune.org/2015/07/24/big-bend-pipeline-opponents-claim-small-victory/

Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: iCe on July 25, 2015, 11:30:36 AM
I travelled thru the southern end of that area of the Big Bend yesterday. I hope the landowners win this fight...
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: Meadows8903 on December 21, 2015, 02:11:27 PM
I stumbled across a recent and very comprehensive article about the pipeline.

 http://nbcnews.com/pages/texas-pipeline



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Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: jim2 on December 21, 2015, 03:48:24 PM
Thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: Andreas on December 21, 2015, 05:34:56 PM
Most interesting read, thank you for the link!
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: Quatro on January 04, 2016, 07:47:09 PM
http://www.texastribune.org/2016/01/04/protested-big-bend-pipeline-now-closer-approval/

Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: Andreas on January 05, 2016, 06:45:11 AM
That's bad news indeed.
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: RichardM on January 05, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
Can't say I'm surprised. Disappointed, but not surprised.
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: tx1c on January 26, 2016, 04:14:35 PM
This was posted yesterday on the San Antonio newspaper site: http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Landowners-under-siege-in-the-Big-Bend-6777875.php
Title: Re: trans pecos pipeline
Post by: Quatro on May 08, 2016, 09:23:59 PM
I hope the landowners win this fight...

They didn't.

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/05/06/big-bend-trans-pecos-pipeline-clears-last-hurdle/