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Offline Picacho

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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2007, 10:28:24 AM »
Homer, I may get that information from you one day.  I would be curious to know what kind of climb it is.  Technical?  Al?

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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2007, 12:42:26 AM »
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
This is Maderas El Carmen's El Pico...
*NEW COORDINATES*
Lattitude:   28°58'11.93"N
Longitude: 102°36'32.80"W


I found a 2720 meter (8924 foot) summit in the Maderas El Carmen on the Boquillas 1:100,000 topo map, shown below.  The contour interval is 20 meters.  I think this is the high point of the Maderas El Carmen.



According to my software (Maptech) the coordinates of this summit are 29° 00' 47.61" N, 102° 36' 59.79" W.

And according to clearbigbendair.org, the high point of the Maderas El Carmen is also known as Loomis Peak.

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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2007, 11:31:05 AM »
Quote from: "brian67761"
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
This is Maderas El Carmen's El Pico...
*NEW COORDINATES*
Lattitude:   28°58'11.93"N
Longitude: 102°36'32.80"W


I found a 2720 meter (8924 foot) summit in the Maderas El Carmen on the Boquillas 1:100,000 topo map, shown below.  The contour interval is 20 meters.



According to my software (Maptech) the coordinates of this summit are 29° 00' 47.61" N, 102° 36' 59.79" W.

And according to clearbigbendair.org, the high point of the Maderas El Carmen is also known as Loomis Peak.


 This is from the link, you provided:
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“The view from the top of Loomis Peak (8,960) may be one of the finest in North America … More than one million visitors annually travel thousands of miles to see Big Bend National Park.  These same people may someday visit a companion park across the Rio Grande.  And, perhaps, a few of them may stand on top of one of the massive cliffs of the Maderas del Carmen’s west side and marvel at the kind of view that raises mind and spirit above the routine concerns of our petty world.”
(Roland H. Wauer, 1992)[7]



 Loomis Peak, has definately have to be on the U.S. side...
 thanks for the link Brian67761.
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2007, 01:18:17 PM »
Homero,

I guess the quote was confusing, but I am sure Wauer is talking about Loomis Peak in Mexico.  There is no Loomis Peak in Texas, not on an official map at least.

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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2007, 01:39:32 PM »
Another article by Ro Wauer: Maderas Del Carmen

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Offline homerboy2u

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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2007, 06:02:22 PM »
I can not discard the possiblity of El Pico being called , previously, Loomis Peak....same goes for Rio Bravo-Rio Grande, depending where you are.

 Maderas El Carmen,many years ago , in the 20?s was a hunting club with members from the U.S. and it wouldn?t surprise me if they named it , as now mention.

  I think , it?s time we summon the proper authorities and ask the property administrators regarding this issue. Let?s see if they can answer the call.
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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2007, 08:18:38 AM »
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I think , it?s time we summon the proper authorities and ask the property administrators regarding this issue. Let?s see if they can answer the call.


Homero, surely your government has the equivalent of the US Geological Survey's Board on Geographic Names, which is the final arbiter of 'official' names. You might find some info via that route as frequently locations have multiple names and one must be picked for use on maps, etc.
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Wendell (Garret Dillahunt): It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?
Ed Tom Bell (Tommy Lee Jones): If it ain't, it'll do till the mess gets here.
--No Country for Old Men (2007)

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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2007, 09:17:43 AM »
Yes there is, it is called INEGI, but i can get better maping information from RichardM than from these guys. To me, these folks are Desk chair warmers , nothing else.

 Anyhow, this is straight from La Boca del Lobo...(i will leave this to Presidio to translate),  Billy Pat Mckinney: Cemex's reserve general manager:
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Loomis peak was named after a man from the Dallas Texas area that owned the Carmen mountain hunting Club .The club properties included most of the Madera's Del Carmen . It operated from around 1913 until the 1930,s.  The club had many parterners and investors over the years. Loomis owned a newspaper business . This group named many of the site,s in the Carmen MT. that still exist today .
Regards
B.P.mckinney
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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2007, 10:05:24 AM »
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Anyhow, this is straight from La Boca del Lobo...(i will leave this to Presidio to translate)


Well, I sure do know what it means....but shouldn't it be La Boca del Caballo?
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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2007, 11:58:20 AM »
Here is  a little Spanglish , for everyone:

 * Straight from the horses mouth: Derecho de la boca del lobo ( straight from the wolf?s mouth).

* Grab the tiger bt the tail: Agarrrar al toro por los cuernos ( grab the bull by the horns).

 And there are many many more, same intention different animal..you see folks: Google doesn?t always honor?s it?s abilities?.
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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2007, 03:14:11 PM »
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
Anyhow, this is straight from La Boca del Lobo...(i will leave this to Presidio to translate),  Billy Pat Mckinney: Cemex's reserve general manager:
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Homero
Loomis peak was named after a man from the Dallas Texas area that owned the Carmen mountain hunting Club .The club properties included most of the Madera's Del Carmen . It operated from around 1913 until the 1930,s.  The club had many parterners and investors over the years. Loomis owned a newspaper business . This group named many of the site,s in the Carmen MT. that still exist today .
Regards
B.P.mckinney


Homero, just knowing a little bit about Mexican history, that would have been a very interesting time to have a hunting club just over the border.

 


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