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Trip to Base of El Pico

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Offline Al

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2016, 05:50:36 PM »
They pointed out a Canyon, they called Diablo, where they said there were tinajas, but it is a hike over there.

Our guide, Rawles Williams, is an incredible hiker. The first year when I couldn't make it to Terminal after coming all the way down from el Pico and this is after he had dropped his pack and carried mine for the last several miles.  He then hiked 5 miles to Boquillas, had a couple of beers, drove Joe Falcon's truck to the base of Terminal, hiked back up, hiked back to his pack and back to where we were camped next the top of Terminal.  The boy is a machine!

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2016, 09:33:08 PM »
I love the shot with the century plant and El Pico. Outstanding!
I'll second that one!  I think that one should qualify as a calendar nomination, even if it is a vertical shot. 

Great report, Bill, of a rare trip.

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2016, 04:15:15 PM »
Thanks! High Praise coming from you sir!

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2017, 03:55:57 PM »
Bill, Al, David et al.,

I recently returned from Big Bend and have become interested in learning more about El Pico.  I read a long thread from 2008: http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/serranias-del-burro-del-carmens-el-carmen/nov08sierra-del-carmen-puerto-rico-mine-boquillas-del-carmen-and-the-tunnel/

with youtube videos from Homero Jimemez of the Puerto Rico mine, along with pictures from Al and others - which was fantastic - but unfortunately all the pictures that homerboy2u posted no longer seem to show up, though the GPS coordinates he posted were most helpful.

Anyways - I was wondering if someone would be willing to explain a bit more about El Pico, Terminal, the mines, El Jardin, etc. - to explain the possible routes for El Pico.  Can one actually climb to the top of El Pico?  Or only to the base?

From studying the maps, this is what I think are the coordinates for El Pico - is this correct:  29.211068, -102.814455

Thanks.

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2017, 04:37:55 PM »
Bill, Al, David et al.,

I recently returned from Big Bend and have become interested in learning more about El Pico.  I read a long thread from 2008: http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/serranias-del-burro-del-carmens-el-carmen/nov08sierra-del-carmen-puerto-rico-mine-boquillas-del-carmen-and-the-tunnel/

with youtube videos from Homero Jimemez of the Puerto Rico mine, along with pictures from Al and others - which was fantastic - but unfortunately all the pictures that homerboy2u posted no longer seem to show up, though the GPS coordinates he posted were most helpful.

Anyways - I was wondering if someone would be willing to explain a bit more about El Pico, Terminal, the mines, El Jardin, etc. - to explain the possible routes for El Pico.  Can one actually climb to the top of El Pico?  Or only to the base?

From studying the maps, this is what I think are the coordinates for El Pico - is this correct:  29.211068, -102.814455

Thanks.

Read this fantastic trip report by joelg for more on the history of the mines and terminals. As for climbing to the actual summit of El Pico, I've been told different things. One of those is that it's owned by CEMEX and that they don't want people climbing to the summit. Not sure what the official response is. I'd rather just go do it and ask for forgiveness later. Here's a map I made that shows the basic route to the to the base of El Pico. Ideally, one would get a ride from Boquillas to Las Norias and then up to the base of Puerto Rico Mine. Then hike from there up to the base of El Pico.

I talked to an old-timer who climbed to the top of El Pico via a gully/chimney on the East Face with then Chief Ranger of Big Bend NP Jim Liles during Thanksgiving of 1982. He sent me a DVD of their trip and I posted it to my YouTube account with permission. Video below. It looks technical and would probably require ropes and protection. Honestly, I would like to climb the north face. Looks like several potential routes that way.

Video - Schott's Tower (El Pico Cerda) - Thanksgiving 1982



North Face of El Pico (Credit David W. Hill)

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2017, 05:49:24 PM »
Bill, Al, David et al.,

I recently returned from Big Bend and have become interested in learning more about El Pico.  I read a long thread from 2008: http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/serranias-del-burro-del-carmens-el-carmen/nov08sierra-del-carmen-puerto-rico-mine-boquillas-del-carmen-and-the-tunnel/

with youtube videos from Homero Jimemez of the Puerto Rico mine, along with pictures from Al and others - which was fantastic - but unfortunately all the pictures that homerboy2u posted no longer seem to show up, though the GPS coordinates he posted were most helpful.

Anyways - I was wondering if someone would be willing to explain a bit more about El Pico, Terminal, the mines, El Jardin, etc. - to explain the possible routes for El Pico.  Can one actually climb to the top of El Pico?  Or only to the base?

From studying the maps, this is what I think are the coordinates for El Pico - is this correct:  29.211068, -102.814455

Thanks.

There are several ways to do it.  One is to get driven to El Jardin and then to hike along the del Carmen's to Pico and then come down to the mines or Terminal.  Another is to get a ride up to the mines and go up and back down from there.  The toughest hike would be to get a ride to Terminal and then hike to the base and go up the burro trail, which is a long hell hike, mostly straight up with a few switchbacks, even if you are in really good shape.  In any case I recommend a guide at least the first time you do it.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2017, 09:24:13 PM by Al »

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2017, 04:57:06 PM »
Very big thanks to Lance and Al for sharing this info.  I'm still going through the joelg trip report - fantastic.  So is the 1982 video - and the map is invaluable, thank you.

On the map:  Is it possible to drive (in a solid 4x4) from the Terminal up the Ore Terminal Road for around 3.6 miles, then turn left on the Old Road #1 for around 4.09 miles, past the Earthen Tank, all the way up to the start of the El Pico Route in red?

Or alternatively is it possible to drive up the Old Mine Trail #1 (purple track) to Old Road #1 to the start of the El Pico Route in red?

If so, then it could potentially be feasible to climb the El Pico Route at ~2.1 miles (4.2 return) as a day hike.  I would be very interested in that.

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Re: Trip to Base of El Pico
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2017, 09:29:37 PM »
I don't believe you can get a  vehicle up at Terminal.  We did follow a road from the base of the Del Carmen's to Terminal the first time we hiked down from El Pico.  But from Terminal down to base desert it was more of a trail than a road, but it has been almost 25 years since we did that hike.

 


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